kmcdonou Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Long time lurker, first time poster. Been doing a lot of reading on this and other forums/sites on reloading, as I am gearing up to do so for the first time. I read about a few people creating their own make-shift mounting system for Mr. Bullet Feeder, to mount the unit separate from the case feeder. I contacted Dan at Inline Fabrication about making something like this and he said he will consider it, but for the meantime pointed me to a solution by Range Panda: https://rangepanda.com/collections/misc-products/products/mr-bullet-feeder-pipe-mount. I did some searches and surprisingly I haven't seen anyone talk about this product, which surprises me. I have read about people wanting to mount their MBF independent of the case holder to fix bullet flip issues, and Rick's solution (inventor of MBF) I heard only works with the older, hockey puck style mount. I don't know enough details about the older and newer styles of MBF, but this product seems to fit either the round style or square style versions of MBF. Just curious if anyone has used this mount. It looks like it is 3-d printed and I am not sure of the strength of the plastic used in those applications. I'd appreciate any feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimiStick Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 the bracket I got from Rick (Mr. Bulletfeeder) works with the new style mount. I have no experience with the rangepanda one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcdonou Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 That's good to know. What is Rick's mount made of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimiStick Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Looking at pics on that site, they look kinda the same. The MBF one is made of some plastic. And comes with screws / ubolts. The only downside to it is that it locks the angle of the MBF Collator. You can't adjust it +/- 45 degrees. I have a spare one somewhere. I'll take a pic and post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcdonou Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 For Rick's version is there an advantage for it being adjustable? What angle is the MBF set at when attached to the case feeder as originally designed? Also what is Rick's version made out of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I came across this on facebook, can be done without the bracket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimiStick Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 13 hours ago, kmcdonou said: For Rick's version is there an advantage for it being adjustable? What angle is the MBF set at when attached to the case feeder as originally designed? Also what is Rick's version made out of? his isn’t adjustable. It’s made of plastic. I’ll find my spare and take a picture. Really, they look the same as the rangepanda one. As for angle, I would like for it to be adjustable. For example, in one of my jacketed 147s - I think Montana Gold flatpoints, I had them getting bunched up in front of the collator plate and spilling over the lip of the bullet-feeder and onto the press and bench. But just that one bullet type. I switched to a run of coated since then and tweaked the shims , and haven’t gone back to MG to test yet. But being able to adjust angle was a nice step to have in troubleshooting. I’ll measure the angle, but I think it looks it at 45 or something very close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimiStick Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Here ya go. That slot you see on one side is where the square bracket that sandwiches the MBF motor slides into. Which fixes the angle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I made my own. It has one cap screw to adjust the angle and one set screw to rotate or remove the feeder. Here's a link to the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimiStick Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 looks good. Make us some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) Too much work and not enough time. My project list is probably a couple hundred items, including two motorcycles, five cars, about a dozen guns, more welding projects than I can keep track of, and all the usual house and shop items. If someone wants to copy the design, I'm fine with that. Edited March 25, 2020 by ltdmstr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcdonou Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 ltdmstr, Yes, I saw your wonderful design. I not a welder, though, so I will have to find someone to make it for me. How has the capability of adjusting the angle of the MBF been beneficial for you? As OptimiStick mentioned he had a particular bullet issue that adjusting the angle could have solved. Just curious as to the circumstances you needed the angle adjusted. It might determinate if I go your route or just buy the fixed plastic solution. OptimiStick, Sorry I misread your earlier post about Rick's plastic piece being adjustable. Thanks for the pict. Rick's mount does look similar to the the Range Panda. Slight differences, but practically the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimiStick Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 9 hours ago, ltdmstr said: Too much work and not enough time. My project list is probably a couple hundred items, including two motorcycles, five cars, about a dozen guns, more welding projects than I can keep track of, and all the usual house and shop items. If someone wants to copy the design, I'm fine with that. oh I completely understand. I’m in the same boat, but on top of that , don’t have the skills fo to build it. My reply was tongue in cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I’m going to look into fabricating a run of wall mounts for the MBF. We’ll see if I hit upon something worth making a few dozen of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Can anyone see a downside to the video I posted? Pretty simple, drilling of two holes in the plate and you are set, still angle adjustable as well. I think I am going to try that setup, the only thing I am thinking may be an issue is if it will tend to slide on the pipe with only one u-bolt versus 2 in these other designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, kmcdonou said: lHow has the capability of adjusting the angle of the MBF been beneficial for you? As OptimiStick mentioned he had a particular bullet issue that adjusting the angle could have solved. Just curious as to the circumstances you needed the angle adjusted. It might determinate if I go your route or just buy the fixed plastic solution. Getting the MBF to work 100% is a combination of four things: the angle of the collator, the slide adjustment on the part that's under the flip ramp, the shim stack that's under the flip ramp and making sure there's zero resistance on the dropper. My MBFs had the older style puck mounts, and adjusting the angle on the collator was a pain in the butt, not only because you had multiple parts to loosen and adjust simultaneously, but also because it was hard to get at being on the back of the case feeder (partly because I had several presses mounted close together). With the mount I made, I have a single set screw that I loosen, adjust the angle, and tighten. Takes about 10-15 seconds. I can also remove the entire collator to clean or check in about the same amount of time. In fact, with this mount, you could move the collator from one press to another in about 5 minutes or less. The other reason I did the stand alone mount was to remove any vibration from it being on the case feeder, which was also causing problems. That was partly due to the bench I was using at the time not being super sturdy. Now I have a rock solid bench and separate mount for the MBFs and everything is rainbows and unicorns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmcdonou Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 Awesome! Good to know. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78Staff Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) I've got Rick's, the older/original version - as others have stated, a little adjust-ability is nice to have, if you need to tweak the angle a bit. The older version does not have a groove or slot so you can move it around a bit if needed. It's also a MDF part, and has held up fine. And a separate temp bar I used when setting up/changing calibers over/etc. Edited March 26, 2020 by 78Staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 On 3/24/2020 at 9:46 AM, OptimiStick said: his isn’t adjustable. It’s made of plastic. I’ll find my spare and take a picture. Really, they look the same as the rangepanda one. As for angle, I would like for it to be adjustable. For example, in one of my jacketed 147s - I think Montana Gold flatpoints, I had them getting bunched up in front of the collator plate and spilling over the lip of the bullet-feeder and onto the press and bench. But just that one bullet type. I switched to a run of coated since then and tweaked the shims , and haven’t gone back to MG to test yet. But being able to adjust angle was a nice step to have in troubleshooting. I’ll measure the angle, but I think it looks it at 45 or something very close to it. Any chance of you posting pics from both sides of the one on your press? Just trying to figure out what is bolted through each hole and what the set screws are for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimiStick Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Sure thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptimiStick Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 The set screws are for the old puck & rod style mounting. Mines the newer bracket style. Here's pics of mine both sides, then some pics from Rick he sent me when I got the brackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) I took a 2x4, same height as the case feeder, then notched it 1" down & 1" in so the original MBF Bracket slid over it. Added a thin plate to the flat side of the wood for support. Then screwed through the 2x4 to the shelves & bench. There's an extra hole in the MBF Bracket & I ran a screw through that into the 2x4. Solid as a rock and then can add attachments to the 2x4 for tools, etc... to hang from. All stuff I had on hand, since I can't get out to shop due to the Pandemic?! Fits right into the look of my Bench and Works great. Edited March 31, 2020 by pskys2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming the Merciless Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) My garage roof is too high and angled, so I mounted mine to the bench. I used these parts from Lowes. https://www.lowes.com/pd/SteelTek-3-4-in-x-Silver-Black-Steel-Structural-Pipe-Fitting-Floor-Flange/1000421965 https://www.lowes.com/pd/SteelTek-3-4-in-x-36-in-Black-Steel-Structural-Pipe-Plain-End-SCH30/1000462571 https://www.lowes.com/pd/SteelTek-3-4-in-x-Silver-Black-Steel-Structural-Pipe-Fitting-Rail-Support/1000421973 My MBFs have the new style brackets so I use the same method as in the Spartan Armaments video above, but used the above bracket rather than a U-Bolt. It works perfectly, I can still adjust the angle by pivoting the original bracket just like before. Rather than swap plates, etc... to change calibers, now I just loosen the single set screw on the bracket, remove the .40 cal. MBF and swap to my second MBF in 9mm complete with second bracket. Edited March 31, 2020 by Ming the Merciless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 11 hours ago, OptimiStick said: Sure thing. Greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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