war_material Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I shot the SAO redback light in 9mm and it was phenomenal ! The build quality is top notch and so is the price but man, when these are production legal I think you can’t get any better in terms of quality and precision right out of the box. I’m not a group shooter but this was head box at about 12 yards. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 A sort of a resurrection of the Swiss Sphinx pistols, I believe. I'd love to try them. They seem to be available in 9mm (and 9x21) only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix1977 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) I have an all steel version SAO in 9mm and it truly is phenomenal. Never handled a gun with this kind of fit and finish. Way beter than my SiG P210 and X-Five Supermatch. A .40 S&W is in the making, which will be called “Drake” www.phx.swiss.com Edited March 13, 2020 by Phoenix1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 The correct link should be https://www.phx.swiss , I think. Where did you find about a .40 being on the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war_material Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 The correct link should be https://www.phx.swiss , I think. Where did you find about a .40 being on the way?I heard about it too from the Sportsman’s loft, which I am fortunate to live only 15min away from. They were running the range when I was able to shoot this gun. I will say the fit and finish on all of these are absolutely top notch and they are built to be precise. I think the SAO in 40 will knock it out of the park when they start cranking them out Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix1977 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 hours ago, perttime said: The correct link should be https://www.phx.swiss , I think. Where did you find about a .40 being on the way? On their FB page, but very little is know sofar. Also an open class gun is in development, the Raptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix1977 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Not alot to be found, but here’s a pic of the open class Raptor , and the single action Drake in .40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war_material Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 Not alot to be found, but here’s a pic of the open class Raptor , and the single action Drake in .40Man those look awesome! Also just a heads up for everyone, my blue bullets loads at 1.135 were way too long for it unfortunately but a ream will solve that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Already announced in German weapon magazine. 5 " barrel .40, super nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 thumb rest can be changed all directions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I love it, will be expensive like 3.800 euro level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix1977 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, Fasthenk65 said: Bedankt Henk, ik ga gelijk die DWJ nabestellen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war_material Posted March 13, 2020 Author Share Posted March 13, 2020 I love it, will be expensive like 3.800 euro levelYup pricey but perfect out of the box. Man they are nice. I think they really hit the niche of just out of the box overbuilt quality. No need to do anything to it but shoot. And the triggers are so nice. Very low recoil tooSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Phoenix1977 said: 2 hours ago, Fasthenk65 said: Bedankt Henk, ik ga gelijk die DWJ nabestellen! wil wel kopie voor je maken geen schiet test meer tech info... Edited March 13, 2020 by Fasthenk65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, war_material said: Yup pricey but perfect out of the box. Man they are nice. I think they really hit the niche of just out of the box overbuilt quality. No need to do anything to it but shoot. And the triggers are so nice. Very low recoil too Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes I felt trigger of a SA made Redback, fantastic!!!! Love the gun, o man I need to save money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerofade Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I own a Phoenix Redback Carry Optic version that I shoot in IPSC. The gun is 2.92lb dry plus optic. It is a great shooter, I have it mounted with a Trijicon SRO. The fit and finish of these pistols is excellent. Let me know if you have any questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, Zerofade said: I own a Phoenix Redback Carry Optic version that I shoot in IPSC. The gun is 2.92lb dry plus optic. It is a great shooter, I have it mounted with a Trijicon SRO. The fit and finish of these pistols is excellent. Let me know if you have any questions. Can you tell us the DA and SA trigger pull with standard springs? And do they offer different hammer springs or can we use CZ ones? Tnx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerofade Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Fasthenk65 said: Can you tell us the DA and SA trigger pull with standard springs? And do they offer different hammer springs or can we use CZ ones? Tnx! The DA is listed as 8lb, it is a heavy pull, however, it is smooth doesn't really stack. The SA is listed as 3lb. The SA is really nice and clean. The Redback has a Main spring housing like a 1911. I just ordered a lighter 1911 main spring for it. Others have told me to expect a lighter DA pull with this lighter main spring. I can report back next week when mine arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 11 hours ago, war_material said: Yup pricey ... Hey, people are only supposed to say that in threads about the Laugo Alien! The .40 might tempt me to go for IPSC Standard, instead of Classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix1977 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Fasthenk65 said: wil wel kopie voor je maken geen schiet test meer tech info... Hoi Henk, heel vriendelijk van je, maar ik heb het blad reeds besteld! Sorry for the Dutch babbling guys, it’s always so funny to meet a fellow countryman from a small country on a U.S. gunforum. Our country is so small, you could drive from one side to the other side of the country within 3 hours! Edited March 14, 2020 by Phoenix1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war_material Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 Hey, people are only supposed to say that in threads about the Laugo Alien! [emoji16][emoji28][emoji1787] The .40 might tempt me to go for IPSC Standard, instead of Classic.Haha I know right! I wonder how big it will be in the US when these become production legal since they are so expensive. I know I wanted one but they increased the weight in carry optics so I got my tanfo back. I think you’ll love the .40 in standard haha do it! [emoji4]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Zerofade said: The DA is listed as 8lb, it is a heavy pull, however, it is smooth doesn't really stack. The SA is listed as 3lb. The SA is really nice and clean. The Redback has a Main spring housing like a 1911. I just ordered a lighter 1911 main spring for it. Others have told me to expect a lighter DA pull with this lighter main spring. I can report back next week when mine arrives. I would appreciate!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix1977 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Fasthenk, don’t know where you live, but if you are really interested, you are welcome to shoot my SAO full steel Redback (once the Corona blows over) mine will also be placed with a test in AK57 gunmagazine anytime soon. Maurice Drummen has al the models in stock at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war_material Posted March 14, 2020 Author Share Posted March 14, 2020 Can’t wait to see more reviews on it too! This resurrection of Sphinx is really putting out a good product. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Phoenix1977 said: Fasthenk, don’t know where you live, but if you are really interested, you are welcome to shoot my SAO full steel Redback (once the Corona blows over) mine will also be placed with a test in AK57 gunmagazine anytime soon. Maurice Drummen has al the models in stock at the moment! Would love to shoot it! About to buy one and held them at Drummen Would be really interested to make some shots!!!!!!!! Super tnx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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