Schutzenmeister Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Glockster1 said: You wanna know an interesting fact? Nowhere in the USPSA rules does it say you have to use your real name. But if you tell USPSA headquarters you're using a fake name, they will deny you membership. Not directly, no ... But 10.6.1 does provide for a DQ for "dishonesty." I would consider giving a fake name dishonest. Would I invoke 10.6.1 and DQ you for it? Possibly not, but I might consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Schutzenmeister said: Not directly, no ... But 10.6.1 does provide for a DQ for "dishonesty." I would consider giving a fake name dishonest. Would I invoke 10.6.1 and DQ you for it? Possibly not, but I might consider it. It's not dishonest unless there's a rules requirement to give your real name. would you dq a chick for fudging a bit when you asked her age, or weight? How bout those guys that claim 10-round 1911 40 magazines run reliably? DQ for all of them? Edited March 13, 2020 by motosapiens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziebart Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 (edited) Plenty of reasons someone might give a fake name at registration. I'd never DQ someone for it and actually I announce that scores will be posted to the internet during the shooters brief for people that are concerned about that. USPSA doesn't give out a list of banned shooters so it's not like someone would even be trying to circumvent that. ETA this is all for level 1 matches Edited March 13, 2020 by ziebart Added more text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schutzenmeister Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, ziebart said: USPSA doesn't give out a list of banned shooters so it's not like someone would even be trying to circumvent that. Actually, that list CAN be accessed ... but you need the person's real name to look him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schutzenmeister Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 1 hour ago, motosapiens said: It's not dishonest unless there's a rules requirement to give your real name. I suppose that depends on what your definition of is is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louu Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, motosapiens said: would you dq a chick for fudging a bit when you asked her age, or weight? Pro tip, Don't ever ask a chick with a gun those 2 questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louu Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Schutzenmeister said: Not directly, no ... But 10.6.1 does provide for a DQ for "dishonesty." I would consider giving a fake name dishonest. Would I invoke 10.6.1 and DQ you for it? Possibly not, but I might consider it. DQ for dishonesty huh. How many times have we seen guys run past targets without even looking at them and then argue with the RO that they shot at it but missed to avoid The FTE LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 4 hours ago, motosapiens said: How bout those guys that claim 10-round 1911 40 magazines run reliably? DQ for all of them? Is it really dishonesty if you’re lying to yourself even more aggressively than you’re lying to those around you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Looks to me like if you have a problem with USPSA publishing your membership and shooting results then your problem is much larger than USPSA. WTF are you so concerned about? It is true the internet has opened my eyes to the people in my country. I'm not liking a lot of knowing about it. Scary!! If you don't like the organization's policies you should not belong. I don't mean this in a mean or nasty way but quit thinking you're special.. You are not.nobody is obsessed with your "personal" information Get over yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming the Merciless Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 4:31 PM, waktasz said: Nothing says you have to use your real name when you sign up for USPSA or register for matches We have Frito Bandito sign up frequently at several of the local matches. There are a couple of other nom de guerres that shoot in this area, although I think one of them is actually a nom de plume, considering how he/she/it shoots. One does so to escape the notice of an ex-wife, another so a current wife doesn't know. ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schutzenmeister Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ming the Merciless said: One does so to escape the notice of an ex-wife, another so a current wife doesn't know. ????? Any chance it's the same wife? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 On 3/8/2020 at 7:26 PM, Glockster1 said: I think people also enjoy doing it for the same reasons people like Facebook and Twitter. I don't understand why. Especially this day in age in America where many different government agencies, and god knows what other trolls, collect that type of data on US citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 22 hours ago, Schutzenmeister said: Not directly, no ... But 10.6.1 does provide for a DQ for "dishonesty." I would consider giving a fake name dishonest. Would I invoke 10.6.1 and DQ you for it? Possibly not, but I might consider it. The fact that you would even consider it is very disturbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziebart Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 23 hours ago, Schutzenmeister said: Actually, that list CAN be accessed ... but you need the person's real name to look him up. Can the MD check that list the morning of the match before shooting starts? As far as I was told the MD has to route the request up through sectional coordinator. It's not like looking someone's membership number up to verify their class on the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schutzenmeister Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I'm not certain who has access ... I'm a certified RM and we have access. Check with whoever has authority to upload results for your club and see if they can do it. I'm pretty sure SCs and ADs have access. However ... The search is by last name. If someone were to give me a take name under this circumstance (and I found his real name was on the disavowed list) I would absolutely invoke 10.6.1, DQ him and contact HQ to report it. Herr Schultz - I doubt I'll ever encounter such a scenario, but I would hope you to find my willingness to consider such action is not necessarily disturbing, given the right circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 1 hour ago, ziebart said: Can the MD check that list the morning of the match before shooting starts? As far as I was told the MD has to route the request up through sectional coordinator. It's not like looking someone's membership number up to verify their class on the website. Not really. You'd have to enter everyone's name one at a time, as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) Match directors can see the banned list. But you must check the name one at a time. It’s not like a list published of all banned shooters. Its like looking up any other shooter. Match directors can do it by name and not just member number though Edited March 15, 2020 by Nathanb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockster1 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) On 3/13/2020 at 3:32 PM, motosapiens said: It's not dishonest unless there's a rules requirement to give your real name. would you dq a chick for fudging a bit when you asked her age, or weight? How bout those guys that claim 10-round 1911 40 magazines run reliably? DQ for all of them? LMAO! Exactly. And that "dishonesty" remark someone else made from the USPSA rules was meant for a competitor who cheats or does something dishonest while competing to gain an advantage over other shooters. I hardly think anyone having a fake name would qualify for "dishonesty" and be due cause for a DQ. Also, someone using a fake name on USPSA is just a way to maintain their privacy, (which you have a legal right to) and to retain pseudo-anonymity the same way most everyone does on this Brian Enos forum. Edited March 15, 2020 by Glockster1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Somewhere there's a long-ago post about shooting a major match with a bunch of burly dudes added late all with the improbable last name of 'Smith' or some such. Some secret-ninja types getting some extra reps in. Approved by the MD of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IVC Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 On 3/13/2020 at 10:45 AM, Racinready300ex said: I signed up for a club match as Hugh Jass once. The stats guy figured me out and changed it though. Figured out as in noticing your cute petite tushie?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming the Merciless Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 On 3/15/2020 at 2:09 PM, shred said: Somewhere there's a long-ago post about shooting a major match with a bunch of burly dudes added late all with the improbable last name of 'Smith' or some such. Some secret-ninja types getting some extra reps in. Approved by the MD of course. I thought they all had the same first name of John? John Bigboote, John Smallberries, John Yaya, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Could have been... I forgot the details, but it was clear that wasn't their real names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 13 hours ago, IVC said: Figured out as in noticing your cute petite tushie?? That would explain how he figured out it was me before I even got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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