MFM22 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Thinking of getting RD for G34 gen 5 & CZP10F OR. . Some folks recommend 6 moa for pistol USPSA since targets are usually 25yds and closer I looked around at local shops no 6's to be found of any manufacturer. I was trying to find Vortex Venom , even on line it's not so common ? is it worth the effort , I know it's personal. I'm over 60 so vision has been better. Lol Figured dot may be the way to go , I did lots of searching and larger dots seem to be gaining popularity with shooters that have been using 2-3 moa. Maybe they're just getting older Edited March 7, 2020 by MFM22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Funny, but dot size seems to depend on the brand/model you get. Some RDS are better small, I am currently using a SIG Romeo Pro 1 and the consensus is it is best in 6 MOA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Small dots are only good for bullseye, or other precision shooting. They are too small to see on white steel in bright light. I am currently using only 5, 6, 8 and 12 MOA dots for competitions. I use the 5s for USPSA only because that is the largest dot they make in the sight I wanted to use. I use the 12 for Steel Challenge. It is very helpful on white steel. For everything else, including bullseye, it is the 6s and the 8s. The only exception is the DPP 2.5 MOA dot on one of my competition rimfire pistols. It is super bright and blooms at max brightness. So it is easy to pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Brightness is more important than dot size. If it can get bright enough, size matters less. How close your eye is to it makes a difference. A 6-min on a frame-mounted Open gun looks a lot smaller than a 6 min on a slide-mount CO pistol. I see no difference in USPSA stages and drill times/points between a 2.5min SRO and a 5min SRO on two otherwise-identical CO pistols. The 2.5 "feels" more precise, but can be harder to find if the brightness is too low for conditions. The flip side is a bigger dot can be 'too bright' for conditions if cranked up too much. Those are mostly only a thing when you have stages in and out of the sun or buildings/covers and whatnot. I shot a 3-min dot well into M-class in Open years ago, then switched to 6-min for other reasons and mostly ran that through GM, even though I had 7, 10 and even a 12 min modules I tried over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 I used to use 6 moa now I only use 8 moa on my open pistols all others are 5moa/6moa... But I also have 2.5 what matters most is brightness of the dot and personal preference. The brigther the dot, the better it is for faster dot pick up~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitedgun Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 8:39 PM, MFM22 said: Thinking of getting RD for G34 gen 5 & CZP10F OR. . Some folks recommend 6 moa for pistol USPSA since targets are usually 25yds and closer I looked around at local shops no 6's to be found of any manufacturer. I was trying to find Vortex Venom , even on line it's not so common ? is it worth the effort , I know it's personal. I'm over 60 so vision has been better. Lol Figured dot may be the way to go , I did lots of searching and larger dots seem to be gaining popularity with shooters that have been using 2-3 moa. Maybe they're just getting older Large dots have been popular since dots have been used in USPSA. Back when there were a lot of 50 yd standards some of the top shooters were using 12 MOA. They are actually easy to use at that distance if you use the top of your dot for your aiming point at that distance and they are smoking fast at 15 yards. The larger dots are not getting more popular, the manufacturers of the mini sights are just accomodating the competition market better than they had in the past. When I shot open with a C-More in 1994 I started out with an 8 MOA and it worked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitedgun Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 8:39 PM, MFM22 said: Thinking of getting RD for G34 gen 5 & CZP10F OR. . Some folks recommend 6 moa for pistol USPSA since targets are usually 25yds and closer I looked around at local shops no 6's to be found of any manufacturer. I was trying to find Vortex Venom , even on line it's not so common ? is it worth the effort , I know it's personal. I'm over 60 so vision has been better. Lol Figured dot may be the way to go , I did lots of searching and larger dots seem to be gaining popularity with shooters that have been using 2-3 moa. Maybe they're just getting older Large dots have been popular since dots have been used in USPSA. Back when there were a lot of 50 yd standards some of the top shooters were using 12 MOA. They are actually easy to use at that distance if you use the top of your dot for your aiming point at that distance and they are smoking fast at 15 yards. The larger dots are not getting more popular, the manufacturers of the mini sights are just accomodating the competition market better than they had in the past. When I shot open with a C-More in 1994 I started out with an 8 MOA and it worked great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 You may also want to check out the Holosun HS507C which has a circle-dot reticle. The circle is 32moa which is nice and big. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFM22 Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) Still haven't had a chance to try anything - all ranges are closed - will get at least a 6 moa - Vortex Venom is available with 6 moa but not many around The Holsun 507 & 508 have the large ring & small dot in same unit - worth checking out Edited March 23, 2020 by MFM22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 The venom 3 moa dot is not very bright in the sun. the 6 moa is usable. The Holosun 2 moa is bright enough that its visible in the sun and 32 circle dot is fun up close for hoser stages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsnjeeps Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 It seems that Vortex builds them in cycles. Several months ago no one had 3 MOA dots, now it seems 6 MOA dots are harder to find. Thinking about breaking one of my rules and using a Venom to back up a scope on an AR and take the front iron off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlantixyl Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) Besides the obvious MOA sizes, the 6 MOA is much better for shooters with astigmatism under daylight. Bright daylight will wash away the emitter red dot starburst, even if the brightness is dialed up all the way, and leave the user with a round center dot. The reason is that the emitter starburst doesn't cover up the circle dot when you crank up the brightness, so the round dot appears much more visible than a 3 MOA or smaller dot. It's easier for the eyes to see and great for most pistol applications. It kinda make sense, and I haven't seen it explained this way. You can read about it here: https://www.badassoptic.com/3-moa-vs-6-moa-reticle-comparison/ Edited February 18, 2022 by atlantixyl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw42 Posted February 18, 2022 Share Posted February 18, 2022 11 hours ago, atlantixyl said: Besides the obvious MOA sizes, the 6 MOA is much better for shooters with astigmatism under daylight. Bright daylight will wash away the emitter red dot starburst, even if the brightness is dialed up all the way, and leave the user with a round center dot. The reason is that the emitter starburst doesn't cover up the circle dot when you crank up the brightness, so the round dot appears much more visible than a 3 MOA or smaller dot. It's easier for the eyes to see and great for most pistol applications. It kinda make sense, and I haven't seen it explained this way. You can read about it here: https://www.badassoptic.com/3-moa-vs-6-moa-reticle-comparison/ Yes, I've noticed this. My dot is a perfect circle when shooting outside, particularly in the sun, but indoors it's a comet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyivan Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Go big, you won't regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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