Jim Watson Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) At present loading Bayous in 9mm. Their 124 roundnose is a bit old fashioned with a distinct shoulder. Loads like a SWC. Loading BBI for .45. Their 230 roundnose is the standard style used by most casters and coaters. I like the Gallant 200 gr roundnose to get that weight for good feeding in guns not "throated" for semiwadcutters, and will probably go to it when the 230s are gone. Xtreme plated when I want a shiny bullet, but probably going all coated when restocking. I have some 115 gr "conical" hollowpoints ordered from Magnus, probably made for Terry by Zero. I will shoot them in GSSF because Glocks are sighted for 115s. Edited February 27, 2020 by Jim Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Phil Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 hours ago, usmc1974 said: With 9 millimeter ammunition being so cheap right now, why reload? 1000 coated bullets 75 Powder 30 Primers 30 Brass. 30 I just went to Academy Sports I bought a thousand Browning 124 fmj 9 mm loaded round rounds for $179 just asking I figure my reloads out like this: .05 bullets (coated @ $50/K) .01 powder ($30/lb @ 3.ogr) .03 primer In some places that comes out to $90/K. That seems cheaper than $179. Just sayin'. Also, that load is tailored for my gun @ my PF and shoots as I wish it to shoot. Oh, the "time factor"? About 10 min. per 100. It is a hobby. But a money saving hobby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyScuba Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 15 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: Iv heard them mentioned a couple of times on this forum, but not as much as most others. What makes them different/similar to the other makers? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Alex from Ibej sponsors a lot of matches I shoot and has a bullet weight&size that nobody else carries. I've also had him make custom colors, my wife loves her pink bullets! The only downside I've heard from fellow shooters is don't order and expect it to go out the next day. He's probably lost some biz given it wasn't just one guy complaing. I think I've heard he was/is a chemical engineer so he makes his own coatings. I like them better than Bayou's coatings, they are a lot more "slippery". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking4reloadingdeals Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Alex from Ibej sponsors a lot of matches I shoot and has a bullet weight&size that nobody else carries. I've also had him make custom colors, my wife loves her pink bullets! The only downside I've heard from fellow shooters is don't order and expect it to go out the next day. He's probably lost some biz given it wasn't just one guy complaing. I think I've heard he was/is a chemical engineer so he makes his own coatings. I like them better than Bayou's coatings, they are a lot more "slippery".With these companies that offer multiple colors I’m assuming there is no difference in performance, it’s purely a pigment added to the coating? Iv always wondered why some companies only offer one color, while others offer a ton of different colors. Assuming most of that is a branding thing Edit: how do you order a custom color? I don’t see that option. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: With these companies that offer multiple colors I’m assuming there is no difference in performance, it’s purely a pigment added to the coating? Iv always wondered why some companies only offer one color, while others offer a ton of different colors. Assuming most of that is a branding thing Edit: how do you order a custom color? I don’t see that option. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk most color variations are for weight, caliber etc probably. I'm sure there would be an easy button if you could get color choice? I just looked at ibejeheads and they offer some color options when you place your order online. Says you can call or email in order also so should be easy enough to ask about colors. Edited February 27, 2020 by Sarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: With these companies that offer multiple colors I’m assuming there is no difference in performance, it’s purely a pigment added to the coating? Iv always wondered why some companies only offer one color, while others offer a ton of different colors. Assuming most of that is a branding thing I asked SNS why they did not offer different colors, I prefer unique colors for each bullet weight I have around. They said that for their equipment the change over is a pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 4 hours ago, usmc1974 said: With 9 millimeter ammunition being so cheap right now, why reload? 1000 coated bullets 75 Powder 30 Primers 30 Brass. 30 I just went to Academy Sports I bought a thousand Browning 124 fmj 9 mm loaded round rounds for $179 just asking I load JHP's in 9MAJOR for about $140 per thousand. I buy in bulk and rarely buy 9mm brass but when I do it's only about 2 cents each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyScuba Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 When I order my Ibeji I just make a note about color preference when I place an order. You could always email and ask. Practice rounds I have no preference. I've got a lot of colors on the go! Take a look my my Christmas themed moons: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Dr. Phil said: I figure my reloads out like this: .05 bullets (coated @ $50/K) .01 powder ($30/lb @ 3.ogr) .03 primer In some places that comes out to $90/K. That seems cheaper than $179. Just sayin'. Also, that load is tailored for my gun @ my PF and shoots as I wish it to shoot. Oh, the "time factor"? About 10 min. per 100. It is a hobby. But a money saving hobby! That's pretty good price on the bullets I don't know where you're getting them deliver to your house to $50 a thousand no tax and shipping? best I can do is go hit, Dr bullet in Topeka and pick up 124 grainers coated bullets for $65 1000 . Primers for $30 a thousand every place I look. Clean tumbled 9 brass is $30 a thousand no shipping or tax. Powder about $30 a pound. That's not enough savings for me to mess with reloading. Your mileage may vary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Joedirt199 said: You can knock the price of brass off with range pickups Yes you can but you take a chance of picking up 9 mmm that's somebody with an open gun has supercharged the piss out to make major. That could cost you a pistol just the thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 9 minutes ago, usmc1974 said: Yes you can but you take a chance of picking up 9 mmm that's somebody with an open gun has supercharged the piss out to make major. That could cost you a pistol just the thought I get that it concerns you and that’s certainly your perogitive but I have loaded the same cases to 9MAJOR so many times I have lost count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, usmc1974 said: That's pretty good price on the bullets I don't know where you're getting them deliver to your house to $50 a thousand no tax and shipping? best I can do is go hit, Dr bullet in Topeka and pick up 124 grainers coated bullets for $65 1000 . Primers for $30 a thousand every place I look. Clean tumbled 9 brass is $30 a thousand no shipping or tax. Powder about $30 a pound. That's not enough savings for me to mess with reloading. Your mileage may vary. A pound of powder is 7,000 grains so a pound will load around 2,000 minor loads. So powder cost is actually about $15 per k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sarge said: I get that it concerns you and that’s certainly your perogitive but I have loaded the same cases to 9MAJOR so many times I have lost count. And that Sarge, is your prerogative, either way it's all good. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Just now, usmc1974 said: And that Sarge, is your prerogative, either way it's all good. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Sarge said: A pound of powder is 7,000 grains so a pound will load around 2,000 minor loads. So powder cost is actually about $15 per k If my math is correct, not that it always is!! if I put 6.5 Grains of power pistol in my 9mmm cartridges, I get 1076 rounds, if I don't spill none of it. How much are you putting in your round to get two thousand rounds out of 1 lb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Texas Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 28 minutes ago, usmc1974 said: That's pretty good price on the bullets I don't know where you're getting them deliver to your house to $50 a thousand no tax and shipping? best I can do is go hit, Dr bullet in Topeka and pick up 124 grainers coated bullets for $65 1000 . Primers for $30 a thousand every place I look. Clean tumbled 9 brass is $30 a thousand no shipping or tax. Powder about $30 a pound. That's not enough savings for me to mess with reloading. Your mileage may vary. Apples to apples? Do you suppose the inexpensive 9mm factory loads can be as accurate as handloads? When I started handloading in the mid 1980s, about the only people who handloaded 9 x 19mm were gunwriters, and a few hard-heads like me who believed that they could make better. That's not to say that there isn't good ammo available, but it certainly isn't Match Grade at $10 a box or less. And there aren't a lot of factory load options for Match Grade 9mm ammo. The question becomes what level of accuracy is necessary, but selecting the best components at prices that have been covered, Match Grade becomes much more accessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 7,000 grains divided by 2,000 would be 3.5 grains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 2 hours ago, usmc1974 said: Yes you can but you take a chance of picking up 9 mmm that's somebody with an open gun has supercharged the piss out to make major. That could cost you a pistol just the thought How could it cost you a pistol? I find enough split cases on the range to know that it is not particularly unusual for people to reload brass until failure and I've had quite a few split while firing, based on policing my own brass after practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackCage Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, IHAVEGAS said: How could it cost you a pistol? I find enough split cases on the range to know that it is not particularly unusual for people to reload brass until failure and I've had quite a few split while firing, based on policing my own brass after practice. The guy doesn't sound like he handloads, so it's probably ignorance. I try not to pick up brass if there is an open gun on my squad, but I am 100% certain I have loaded 9mm Major brass again with no ill effects. Usually the first sign for me is loose primer pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1974 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Been shooting in reloading now over 40 years. when the insult start, and things are just assumed, I'm finished with the thread. Have a nice day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackCage Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, usmc1974 said: Been shooting in reloading now over 40 years. when the insult start, and things are just assumed, I'm finished with the thread. Have a nice day Welcome to the internet. Saying it's probably ignorance isn't much of an insult where I come from, but hey... it's 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, TrackCage said: Welcome to the internet. Saying it's probably ignorance isn't much of an insult where I come from, but hey... it's 2020. I did not detect any insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Insult or not, we need to keep it civil. My father, who in my eyes was a brilliant man, told me when I was growing up that it was no big deal to be ignorant. Being ignorant just means that you did not know...However, he despised a person being stupid. Ignorance is readily cured by knowledge, but stupidity cannot be cured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I agree with up above. 9mm minor factory spec isnt worth my time or components to reload. At one time it was, May be in the future.. Today ? mmm yeh no,, Rather keep my press set up for 357/45/ or long 40 Far as accuracy ? for most action games, you wont beat bulk 9mm to matter a bit. Try a couple then shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, MikeyScuba said: When I order my Ibeji I just make a note about color preference when I place an order. You could always email and ask. How do you legally get them in country? Edited February 28, 2020 by 4n2t0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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