perob Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Just noticed the local dealers around here announced the Sig P320 X-Five Alpha. A P320 with Alu frame, specifically for competitions and made in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m700 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Well crap.just bought a legion I guess Ill need to add this to the stable too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderquist Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) I bought two 320 RXs a couple years ago to compete in CO. I'm really happy with them. I held off buying the X5 because I thought they'd improve it. I was going to buy the Legion last summer but I held off because I thought they might improve it. So... I think I'll hold off a while on this one because I bet they improve it in a year or so. Edited February 24, 2020 by Soderquist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowsc3 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 47 minutes ago, Soderquist said: I bought two 320 RXs a couple years ago to compete in CO. I'm really happy with them. I held off buying the X5 because I thought they'd improve it. I was going to buy the Legion last summer but I held off because I thought they might improve it. So... I think I'll hold off a while on this one because I bet they improve it in a year or so. Yea i bought the regular x-five then the legion came out so i bought the grip , and now this . I'm happy with my TXG grip and silicone carbide, but i wonder if they will sell this metal grip alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderquist Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lowsc3 said: Yea i bought the regular x-five then the legion came out so i bought the grip , and now this . I'm happy with my TXG grip and silicone carbide, but i wonder if they will sell this metal grip alone. I remember they were selling the Legion on the concept that it flexes as a polymer gun but is heavy like steel. The best of both worlds. (Subliminal message: better than those outdated steel guns) Now metal is better. There is so much to learn in this sport. Edited February 24, 2020 by Soderquist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dung Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I wonder what the street price will be on this? I bet it will be quite a bit higher than the TXG version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Aluminum, will this even be heavier then the legion? What is the benefit to justify the extra expense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perob Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 45 minutes ago, Racinready300ex said: Aluminum, will this even be heavier then the legion? What is the benefit to justify the extra expense? It says in the announcement that it can weigh up to 1.3kg with tungsten in the grip. Legion is slightly less. They also advertise an even better trigger at stock 3.5lbs. Looks like it has a better beaver tail and trigger guard undercut. Frames should be available for purchase. Price seems to be somewhere between 15-18% more. Available in Europe around June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowsc3 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Soderquist said: I remember they were selling the Legion on the concept that it flexes as a polymer gun but is heavy like steel. The best of both worlds. (Subliminal message: better than those outdated steel guns) Now metal is better. There is so much to learn in this sport. I think if were going based on weight then this cant be MUCH different in terms of recoil felt from a TXG grip, that being said this looks grippier stock then the TXG. In additon it would allow the metal to be drilled and an frame mounted optic to be placed, throw an optic on it and a comp and your in open. I wonder if the BARSTO barrel can handle 9mm major or if any companies have this idea in mind as well. It would be cool to throw some extra parts and have a gun that do limited minor, CO and open with a swap of a frame/ slide keeping the same trigger and ergonomics throughout all three divisions. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, perob said: It says in the announcement that it can weigh up to 1.3kg with tungsten in the grip. Legion is slightly less. They also advertise an even better trigger at stock 3.5lbs. Looks like it has a better beaver tail and trigger guard undercut. Frames should be available for purchase. Price seems to be somewhere between 15-18% more. Available in Europe around June. I guess that is a something then. 2 oz of weight and a few oz of trigger pull doesn't seem like much for 15-20%. If I already had a X5 or Legion I wouldn't be rushing out to buy one. But, Sig is pretty genius to slowly release upgraded versions of the same gun like this. Lots of people in the shooting world need to have the latest and greatest and will rush out to buy the new hotness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Lowsc3 said: I think if were going based on weight then this cant be MUCH different in terms of recoil felt from a TXG grip, I can't imagine you could tell the difference in just 2 oz. The bigger difference would be how the aluminum makes the gun feel. I've never shot a aluminum framed gun, so no idea. I wouldn't mind trying the two side by side just to see what they feel like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsaks Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I guess that is a something then. 2 oz of weight and a few oz of trigger pull doesn't seem like much for 15-20%. If I already had a X5 or Legion I wouldn't be rushing out to buy one. But, Sig is pretty genius to slowly release upgraded versions of the same gun like this. Lots of people in the shooting world need to have the latest and greatest and will rush out to buy the new hotness.exactly. apple and Samsung have been doing it for years. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I am gonna stick with my Legion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willio Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Will there be a anyway us westerners can a get this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter212 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Manual safety’s not cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mveto Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Pretty nice, wonder if and when this will be available state side. Only downside I see is the manual safety. No point for the safety on a striker fired comp gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertwil18 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I wouldn't mind the Alpha slide to use on the existing Legion TXG grip. I won't be spending for an aluminum grip though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_shoots_fast Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Looks interesting. I would want to shoot this and see how it stacks up to the limited guns that are steel framed! Also it looks like sig is trying to capitalize on STI getting out of the USPSA market, smart. I may have missed this, but why wasn’t this at shot show? Seems like this is a pretty big announcement for sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincwarrior Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 15 hours ago, zhunter said: I am gonna stick with my Legion If it weighs more then that knocks it out of Production/SSP class. IIRC but the Legion is right on the edge of the weight if you take the magwell off. I would also not be a fan of the the manual safety, because then I would have to use it in competition. HOPEFULLY, that doesn't mean they quit selling the other ones. I like the SIg X 5s but man they run through pistol models pretty fast. Edited February 25, 2020 by Zincwarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirectDrive Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 19 hours ago, Racinready300ex said: What is the benefit to justify the extra expense? Well, you could thumb your nose at the Legion elitists while they are quietly sobbing in a corner somewhere. Alpha Members Only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perob Posted February 25, 2020 Author Share Posted February 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Atlasguy321 said: Looks interesting. I would want to shoot this and see how it stacks up to the limited guns that are steel framed! Also it looks like sig is trying to capitalize on STI getting out of the USPSA market, smart. I may have missed this, but why wasn’t this at shot show? Seems like this is a pretty big announcement for sig. It's going to shown by SIG at the IWA trade show in March. I think it might be aimed mostly for IPSC. The CZ Shadow 2 was also unveiled at IWA first if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, DirectDrive said: Well, you could thumb your nose at the Legion elitists while they are quietly sobbing in a corner somewhere. Alpha Members Only Flexen on da poors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_shoots_fast Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 24 minutes ago, perob said: It's going to shown by SIG at the IWA trade show in March. I think it might be aimed mostly for IPSC. The CZ Shadow 2 was also unveiled at IWA first if I remember correctly. I don’t shoot 3 gun but if I did, maybe I would give this a look. Seems like it could hang with the 2011 platforms for 3G. Wonder if it will come to the states right away so we can play with them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowsc3 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 15 hours ago, Shooter212 said: Manual safety’s not cool I didn't catch that! So if the metal frame has the cut out for the safety and my current FCU doesn't have a safety will there be a missing slot or some compatibility issues if i just bought a frame? Thinking about it i wouldn't mind if there was a safety as long as i can get it extended like my TSO that way both guns will have a safety rest and a thumb rest as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thormx538 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 47 minutes ago, Lowsc3 said: I didn't catch that! So if the metal frame has the cut out for the safety and my current FCU doesn't have a safety will there be a missing slot or some compatibility issues if i just bought a frame? Thinking about it i wouldn't mind if there was a safety as long as i can get it extended like my TSO that way both guns will have a safety rest and a thumb rest as well. Assuming they didn't change anything with the way the FCU works, you could just remove all the manual safety parts and have the extra notch in the frame and hole in the FCU visible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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