perttime Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 STP seems to have some pretty good base models, and they do custom work too. Maybe.... get a Bul or STP and let a gunsmith see if it needs anything. For example, I have an almost local guy who imports STI, and offers a trigger job as a "standard option" and other work on request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator11 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 On 1/26/2020 at 7:21 PM, BLUEPSTU said: I just purchased a BUl armory SAS II ultralight. Pretty impressed so far. It is great having that small of a carry gun with a full-size 2011 grip that holds 19 rounds. With all of the Bul Armory guns I have held, it seems it will be hard to find a better value for the money. How long have you had it? How does is shoot? Where did you find one to buy? Sti mags fit? I'm in the market for a new carry gun and they look like a decent deal but I have never handled one. Any feedback would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEPSTU Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) I got it around the Christmas holidays. It shoots very good. It is a light gun but the recoil is not bad since you have a full size grip. Also, I believe they advertise it as a 3.5-4 lb trigger but mine is 2lb 2oz. Others would not like that light of a trigger on a carry gun but it doesn't bother me though as it is double the weight of some of my comp guns.They do make a 15 round version that has a grip that is about 1 inch shorter than the 19 round version. I got it from gparms.com. The owner of the site is Gilbert Perez and he is very helpful and will answer all your questions. STI mags do not fit. Hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any more questions. Edited April 22, 2020 by BLUEPSTU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEPSTU Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, gator11 said: How long have you had it? How does is shoot? Where did you find one to buy? Sti mags fit? I'm in the market for a new carry gun and they look like a decent deal but I have never handled one. Any feedback would be appreciated. Here is a pic. The grip does not look as huge compared to the rest of the gun as it does in this pic. Edited April 22, 2020 by BLUEPSTU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiseguy724 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I have a radical 5.4, It is my first 2011. It eats 1.125, 1.180 and 1.200 without an issue. I'm very happy with it thus far. Factory mags with TT pads and the factory performance spring&follower kit hold 22 rounds of 40. Pressing down on the barrel hood like chalee mentioned earlier in the thread does not produce any movement at all, it feels like pressing on a brick. Waiting on the steel grips to arrive stateside, then it will be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiseguy724 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 one more pic since there aren't many around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator11 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 46 minutes ago, BLUEPSTU said: I got it around the Christmas holidays. It shoots very good. It is a light gun but the recoil is not bad since you have a full size grip. Also, I believe they advertise it as a 3.5-4 lb trigger but mine is 2lb 2oz. Others would not like that light of a trigger on a carry gun but it doesn't bother me though as it is double the weight of some of my comp guns.They do make a 15 round version that has a grip that is about 1 inch shorter than the 19 round version. I got it from gparms.com. The owner of the site is Gilbert Perez and he is very helpful and will answer all your questions. STI mags do not fit. Hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any more questions. Thank you for the information. Looks like a winner price wise. I'll do some more investigating and if I have any questions I'll reach out. Thanks again for helping out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator11 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 49 minutes ago, Wiseguy724 said: I have a radical 5.4, It is my first 2011. It eats 1.125, 1.180 and 1.200 without an issue. I'm very happy with it thus far. Factory mags with TT pads and the factory performance spring&follower kit hold 22 rounds of 40. Pressing down on the barrel hood like chalee mentioned earlier in the thread does not produce any movement at all, it feels like pressing on a brick. Waiting on the steel grips to arrive stateside, then it will be perfect. I think they may take the place of STi for factory comp guns at a reasonable price point now that STi went tactical. Your review certainly makes it sound like a viable alternative. Thanks for the review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiseguy724 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Not a problem, pm me anytime if you have any questions. I have built a pretty good excel sheet of load data as well if anyone pics one up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazeauRacing Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) On 4/21/2020 at 11:15 AM, gator11 said: How long have you had it? How does is shoot? Where did you find one to buy? Sti mags fit? I'm in the market for a new carry gun and they look like a decent deal but I have never handled one. Any feedback would be appreciated. On 4/21/2020 at 7:18 PM, BLUEPSTU said: I got it around the Christmas holidays. It shoots very good. It is a light gun but the recoil is not bad since you have a full size grip. Also, I believe they advertise it as a 3.5-4 lb trigger but mine is 2lb 2oz. Others would not like that light of a trigger on a carry gun but it doesn't bother me though as it is double the weight of some of my comp guns.They do make a 15 round version that has a grip that is about 1 inch shorter than the 19 round version. I got it from gparms.com. The owner of the site is Gilbert Perez and he is very helpful and will answer all your questions. STI mags do not fit. Hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any more questions. I just picked up a Bul Ultralight with a compact grip after catching the 2011 bug from picking up a Staccato C2 in February (it was my first 2011). I really like the gun, and I've already ordered a Viper with the full size grip. Bul's 15-round compact grip is actually 5mm shorter than STI's compact grip, but since this is an "Officer" size 2011 I felt that it needed to be even shorter... so... dremel, drill press, belt sander, various files, determination, and an afternoon bored at home = chopped grip and shortened magazines for a flush fit. The Bul 2011 compact magazines are about the only thing I don't like about this handgun (based on the RIA/Para double stack mags), because the magazine base plates are a pain to remove and reattach compared to the full-size mags. However, that attachment method makes it relatively easy to shorten the magazine body and drill new holes for the base plate mounting tabs. The base plates are also unnecessarily long at the front lip, so I shortened that front lip for better aesthetics. I cut 0.300" off the magazine body and the grip for a flush fit when the magazine is inserted. The shortened magazines now only hold 14 rounds, but I believe the gun looks better and conceals better. In addition to chopping the grip and beveling the inside of the newly cut magazine opening, I also rounded off the sharp edges on each side of the bottom of the trigger guard to make it more comfortable when gripping the gun. Edited May 30, 2020 by BrazeauRacing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEPSTU Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 hours ago, BrazeauRacing said: I just picked up a Bul Ultralight with a compact grip after catching the 2011 bug from picking up a Staccato C2 in February (it was my first 2011). I really like the gun, and I've already ordered a Viper with the full size grip. Bul's 15-round compact grip is actually 5mm shorter than STI's compact grip, but since this is an "Officer" size 2011 I felt that it needed to be even shorter... so... dremel, drill press, belt sander, various files, determination, and an afternoon bored at home = chopped grip and shortened magazines for a flush fit. The Bul 2011 compact magazines are about the only thing I don't like about this handgun (based on the RIA/Para double stack mags), because the magazine base plates are a pain to remove and reattach compared to the full-size mags. However, that attachment method makes it relatively easy to shorten the magazine body and drill new holes for the base plate mounting tabs. The base plates are also unnecessarily long at the front lip, so I shortened that front lip for better aesthetics. I cut 0.300" off the magazine body and the grip for a flush fit when the magazine is inserted. The shortened magazines now only hold 14 rounds, but I believe the gun looks better and conceals better. In addition to chopping the grip and beveling the inside of the newly cut magazine opening, I also rounded off the sharp edges on each side of the bottom of the trigger guard to make it more comfortable when gripping the gun. Looks good! I just stippled the grips on mine. It was pretty good for stock but I like my grips to be very rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazeauRacing Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, BLUEPSTU said: That looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUEPSTU Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, BrazeauRacing said: That looks great! Thanks! My support and just slipped a little too much with the stock grip. That does not happen anymore. Ha ha. Edited May 31, 2020 by BLUEPSTU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjmitchem Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Bul Armory Tactical Carry Commander. 2-tone finish and the compact grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 many take this model Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjmitchem Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, yigal said: <snip> Love that gun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, tjmitchem said: Love that gun! i think it's a hit few friends from the club use ULTRA models SS in .45 as carry gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdiddi Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 Really nice looking pistols! Wish I could get my hands on these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwest3Gunner Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Will the 2011 DAA dry fire mag fit these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjmitchem Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 20 hours ago, Midwest3Gunner said: Will the 2011 DAA dry fire mag fit these? If it works in an STI, then probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Week3 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Hopefully Bul Armory refines their designs so they look less like a kid’s LEGO blocks clumped together. Functionality first and design/aesthetics second, but for the price point there are other options that better cover both aspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator11 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 6/4/2020 at 1:28 PM, Midwest3Gunner said: Will the 2011 DAA dry fire mag fit these? Yes they lock in and drop free in my SAS II Tactical Commander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerjd Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I happen to have a fair ammount of time with a few BUL Armory guns. A full size hicap government model, SAS2 commander, and one of their trophy 1911 9mm. The frames are harder then most you can get in USA. Fitment is solid, not as good as some custom builders but much better then anything below a Dan Wesson in the USA. Accuracy is very good. Trigger job from factory is great on the competition models, average on the non competition models. No MIM parts that I've seen. They wont normally accept STI style mags unless you machine the frame, not hard to do. And could be done with files at home. You can get a 2011 grip fitted but it take a bit more work then on a STI style gun as the BUL frame doesnt use bushings for the grip screws. Both of my SAS2 guns have 1k plus rounds and then I started messing with them on the mill. Here is a pic of the commander with a Cheely grip fitted, slide lightened a bit, and red dot base. We also cut the frame for STI mags. Run good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerjd Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 This is the government model we setup as an open gun. Currently getting a LSI outlaw grip fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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