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Ive got a para p16 based gun that im looking for an open holster for. I think im going to go with the DAA alpha series, but am not positive on which insert to use. the gun is really close to a 1911, but the grip is obviously wider, and most 1911 holsters dont fit the trigger area.

 

Im open to other holsters, especially cheaper ones lol

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I use a CR Speed WSM II with my Rock Island Armory Pro Ultra Match HC 40.  These are Para clones, so should fit the same holsters. 

 

If you're interested, I can check to see how I have the spacers set up to fit the trigger guard.

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I use a CR Speed WSM II with my Rock Island Armory Pro Ultra Match HC 40.  These are Para clones, so should fit the same holsters. 
 
If you're interested, I can check to see how I have the spacers set up to fit the trigger guard.
Mine is a rock island as well. I would be interested in seeing your setup. I've got a comp and frame mounted dot. I've got other holsters that fit it before I got the optic though.

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Ive got a ccouple that would work, one was for a caspian open gun , same round trigger guard. Adjustable for comp length.. I wanna say its a CR speed, was the bees knees about 10 years ago....
Also how old school you want to go ? Have a leather ted blocker speed holster for up to I think 7 inch,, need to dig them out.  My caspian project is dead due to barrel fit and magazine issues, so gonna dig these out and list them in classified soon I guess, sell the first one that sells.
I need one for my future pin gun I think

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Ive got a ccouple that would work, one was for a caspian open gun , same round trigger guard. Adjustable for comp length.. I wanna say its a CR speed, was the bees knees about 10 years ago....

Also how old school you want to go ? Have a leather ted blocker speed holster for up to I think 7 inch,, need to dig them out.  My caspian project is dead due to barrel fit and magazine issues, so gonna dig these out and list them in classified soon I guess, sell the first one that sells.

I need one for my future pin gun I think

I'd be interested in the cr speed. I kinda want to mix old school with new school, I'm shooting 9x25 Dillon, which was in use about 30 years ago, but I don't want to go leather I don't get why those darned open holsters run 200 bucks [emoji2962]

 

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15 hours ago, nhyrum said:

Mine is a rock island as well. I would be interested in seeing your setup. I've got a comp and frame mounted dot. I've got other holsters that fit it before I got the optic though.
 

 

Here are some photos of my CR Speed WSM II set up for my RIA Limited gun.  I truncated the rail for the muzzle support.  Originally, that rail is about 1.5" longer. 

 

I have another WSM II for my XDm 5.25 Limited gun which I also shortened.  I've since built a budget Open gun with a 3-port comp on a XDm 4.5" barrel and, even with the shortened muzzle support rail, I was still able to move the support down low enough that the comp rests nicely on the support.  I mention this in case you are wondering if the support rail will be long enough for your Open gun.

 

Let me know if I can answer any questions or provide any more photos! 

 

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Here are some photos of my CR Speed WSM II set up for my RIA Limited gun.  I truncated the rail for the muzzle support.  Originally, that rail is about 1.5" longer. 
 
I have another WSM II for my XDm 5.25 Limited gun which I also shortened.  I've since built a budget Open gun with a 3-port comp on a XDm 4.5" barrel and, even with the shortened muzzle support rail, I was still able to move the support down low enough that the comp rests nicely on the support.  I mention this in case you are wondering if the support rail will be long enough for your Open gun.
 
Let me know if I can answer any questions or provide any more photos! 
 
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My comp is quite long. I think 2 to 2.5 inches. Do you think, without trimming it, the cr speed would be long enough? 5" slide

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19 hours ago, Joe4d said:

Hey that looks like my holster, is it a different model for the XDM ? Or will same one work, right now a XDM 45 or a 6" 1911 is on my shopping list.

 

Officially, there may be a different model of WSM II for the XDm, but I don't know.  I had the holster already so I modified it to work with the XDm.  The trigger gap wasn't wide enough just by removing all of the spacers, so I widened it myself.  It's not entirely pretty, but it works great.  (See photos below)

 

18 hours ago, nhyrum said:

My comp is quite long. I think 2 to 2.5 inches. Do you think, without trimming it, the cr speed would be long enough? 5" slide

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Much to my wife's chagrin, I keep everything, including the sawn off portion of the holster! ;) 

 

I cut about 1.75" off the total length:

 

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Even after doing that, there's still about 5/8" longer adjustment available (it was hard to photograph for some reason...):

 

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Given that the support screw can be moved down about 2-1/4" and there's 5/8" more adjustability, I'd say you'd be fine with a 5" slide and up to 2.875" of comp. 

 

Even if the kerf of the blade that I used to cut it was thinner than I'm estimating, and there's only 2" + 5/8" adjustability, you'll likely be fine:

 

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Here's my XDm holster, also truncated:

 

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XDm OSP 4.5 with an AlphaWolf Compensator (approx 1-3/4" long😞

 

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The holster was actually cut for this XDm 5.25, which is why the muzzle support hangs a little low with the comp'd pistol:

 

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Here's what the trigger gap looks like now:

 

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It's not a pretty job, by any means, but works great!

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I'm running a PARA P16/.357 sig standard gun in a DAA Racemaster holster with a PARA insert, works in the Alpha X as well.

Yeah I just got an alpha x. My trigger guard was a little wide, but after modifying it, it fits great now.

 

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