avastcosmicarena Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Is anything else out there close to the KL12 now for an open shotgun? Performance-wise, I mean. Other than the Limcat, I guess, since that's the same platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donno Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Nope. There are other companies that build out a box fed shotgun but on a couple with the vepr. If you go with the vepr I would go with Dissident. I sent them a stock in box gun and they returned to me a quality gun that runs. and if you ever have an issue with it call and you will probably speak to Mike or Lan the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpo Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 R&R Targets makes a couple(one is his own design, the other is a modded Vepr clone from Turkey) and both have AR-style controls. I've only seen one in person, a Wright-12, and it seemed to run pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothandnail Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 VR80 from Tooth and Nail Armory, ~1/2 the cost, less weight, less recoil, bigger mags, true AR ergos. We've been building 3 gun, mag fed shotguns & parts since 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitzmiller_3GUN Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 If you're going to play in the open division, you'll want a Dissident Arms gun. Look at the top open division shooters in the US, and you'll see that they all run DA guns.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XDoctor Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 7 hours ago, toothandnail said: VR80 from Tooth and Nail Armory, ~1/2 the cost, less weight, less recoil, bigger mags, true AR ergos. We've been building 3 gun, mag fed shotguns & parts since 2012 The VR80 is an interesting shotgun. I've been working on mine for a few months now. I think it has the potential to run with the Dissidents, but the nice thing about the Dissident is it's ready to go to a match the day it shows up. My VR80 is just starting to get reliable after a lot of tweaking. I did not buy mine from T&N though, although they do make great mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothandnail Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, XDoctor said: The VR80 is an interesting shotgun. I've been working on mine for a few months now. I think it has the potential to run with the Dissidents, but the nice thing about the Dissident is it's ready to go to a match the day it shows up. My VR80 is just starting to get reliable after a lot of tweaking. I did not buy mine from T&N though, although they do make great mags. A factory VEPR is no different, depends on how much vodka the drunk Russian had at assembly time. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XDoctor Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, toothandnail said: A factory VEPR is no different, depends on how much vodka the drunk Russian had at assembly time. LOL LOL! I'm sure of that. What kind of work do you guys do to them before you send them out the door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothandnail Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 now if I gave away all our secrets, I wouldn't have a business very long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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