dgreg171 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Hello, I am brand new to reloading and looking for some recommendations and and load data to use for 147gr FP Black Bullet International (BBI) and 147gr blue bullets both RN and FP. I have Ramshot Silhouette and Accurate #7 powders, losing mixed brass with CCI 500 primers. Intended for 9mm minor for USPSA. I called BBI and asked their recommendations and he said those powders would not get best results and recommend a shotgun powder. Just looking for a little guidance if anyone has good load recipe with what I have or a powder they would recommend for those bullets. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJB Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Those powders you have aren't optimum if you're loading for minor, but they'll certainly push a bullet out. You say you'll be loading for USPSA. So, for loading for minor you'll want to find a powder with a faster burn rate. There are many options. Look for Titegroup, Sport Pistol, N320, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking4reloadingdeals Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 If you take a look at my recent posts, I posted a bunch of load data using mostly 147gr coated bullets and titegroup powder. There are a couple loads with 124/115gr bullets also. I started with power pistol when I started reloading, but as I moved to 147, I switched to Titegroup and have really enjoyed it. It’s available almost everywhere, uses a small charge weight (pay attention to your cases after powder and watch out for double charges, which will not overflow the case), and can be found for about $135 on powder valley. If you wait for free hazmat/shipping it comes out to $0.007/charge. Hope this helpsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAP Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 This is my load with Blue Bullets. My goto powder for 9mm and 40 is Alliant Sport Pistol. Meters very well, clean and is plenty accurate. This load will get me a 2” group at 25 yards with a rest.Created: 12/20/19 01:59 PMDescription: TP9sfx 147 FP Blue BulletsNotes 1: 3.3 grains SP Fed SPPNotes 2: Distance to Chrono(FT): 15.00Ballistic Coefficient: 145.000Bullet Weight(gr): 147.00Temp: 57 °FBP: 1023.14 inHgAltitude: 800.00# FPS FT-LBS PF15 930 282.36 136.71 14 920 276.32 135.24 13 924 278.73 135.83 12 936 286.01 137.59 11 924 278.73 135.83 10 925 279.33 135.98 9 937 286.62 137.74 8 915 273.32 134.51 7 931 282.96 136.86 6 926 279.93 136.12 5 925 279.33 135.98 4 930 282.36 136.71 3 926 279.93 136.12 2 930 282.36 136.71 1 916 273.92 134.65 Average: 926.3 FPSSD: 6.3 FPSMin: 915 FPSMax: 937 FPSSpread: 22 FPSShot/sec: 0.4True MV: 926 FPSGroup Size (in): 0.00Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl7evenlxx Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Sport Pistol, WST, N320, BE86, Power pistol all work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo329 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I like shooters world clean shot. Feels alot to me like N320 and alot cheaper. I have read posts on here where people have directly tested clean shot and n320 and thinks it provides even a better feeling pistol to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Texas Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) On 1/10/2020 at 9:06 PM, dgreg171 said: Hello, I am brand new to reloading and looking for some recommendations and and load data to use for 147gr FP Black Bullet International (BBI) and 147gr blue bullets both RN and FP. I have Ramshot Silhouette and Accurate #7 powders, losing mixed brass with CCI 500 primers. Intended for 9mm minor for USPSA. I called BBI and asked their recommendations and he said those powders would not get best results and recommend a shotgun powder. Just looking for a little guidance if anyone has good load recipe with what I have or a powder they would recommend for those bullets. Thanks! Since it appears that you have a source for Western Powders, I would recommend AA No 2. Really surprised that it gets so little mention on this forum. It has the flexibility to load many cartridges very effectively from .38 Sp. to .45 ACP target loads. It is insensitive to powder positioning in the case like TiteGroup. It does not, however, create the very high flame temperatures of TiteGroup. I've been using No 2 with the RMR In-House 124 gr. JHP at 127 PF with a Standard Deviation of 5 FPS. If someone really thinks they need a softer shooting load, then obviously, it ain't recoil that hampers their accuracy. I'll also mention that since Hodgdon Clays is no longer available from the original exporter, ADI in Australia, Ramshot Competition has proven to be a worthy replacement. Edited January 15, 2020 by K-Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaynePatrick Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 On 1/10/2020 at 10:06 PM, dgreg171 said: Hello, I am brand new to reloading and looking for some recommendations and and load data to use for 147gr FP Black Bullet International (BBI) and 147gr blue bullets both RN and FP. I have Ramshot Silhouette and Accurate #7 powders, losing mixed brass with CCI 500 primers. Intended for 9mm minor for USPSA. I called BBI and asked their recommendations and he said those powders would not get best results and recommend a shotgun powder. Just looking for a little guidance if anyone has good load recipe with what I have or a powder they would recommend for those bullets. Thanks! You can try Hogdons Clays powder.. its very versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Ammo Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I use WST and Alliant Sport Pistol with BBI. Both are great powders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balmo Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 6:13 AM, Rambo329 said: I like shooters world clean shot. Feels alot to me like N320 and alot cheaper. I have read posts on here where people have directly tested clean shot and n320 and thinks it provides even a better feeling pistol to shoot. Agreed. I use Clean Shot for PCC & Carry Optics and has the lowest Std Dev I've recorded. Meters excellent as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Dflyer Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Clean shot 3.6 gr, 147 blue bullets round nose, cci 500 primers, and plunk test in your gun for length. I get about 130 power factor. If new to reloading, get a chrono ASAP! Best investment to realize your results for each adjustment you make. Competition Electronics ProChrono DLX Chronograph White https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FTJYQ9Z/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_7xTnEb6QF5JCM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef15 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3.4gr of Cleanshot under a 147gr rn blue @ 1.12 put me at 134pf from my G17. Cleanshot is virtually if not identical to AA#2. Titegroup or Bullseye at 3.2gr worked well also, slightly lower powerfactor. I've since gone to lighter bullets most of the time, cheaper, and seem more accurate with less development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swifty99 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 I pretty much use Titegroup for everything but Open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phidelt208 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I’m a big shot of hodgens universal it can be found locally for a very cheap price meters well it is very soft shooting in 147’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger2 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 I moved to Black Bullets. I am using a 125 grain swc and I need to know what the completed cartridge overall length should be? ...and if anyone is using unique powder, what is a safe charge? ...and last if not least, is there some place on the internet I can get this data for 9 mm luger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGRIDER Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 35 minutes ago, Roger2 said: I moved to Black Bullets. I am using a 125 grain swc and I need to know what the completed cartridge overall length should be? ...and if anyone is using unique powder, what is a safe charge? ...and last if not least, is there some place on the internet I can get this data for 9 mm luger? Welcome to the Forum! The "search" function is your friend! Example: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 On 1/15/2020 at 10:58 AM, WaynePatrick said: You can try Hogdons Clays powder.. its very versatile. In my revolver 9mm: 147gr Blue RN: Clays 3.00gr: Fed Case: OAL 1.20: S&W 929 Notes: S&W 929 Shots: 4 Average: 882 ft/s SD: 10 ft/s Min: 871 ft/s Max: 897 ft/s Spread: 26 ft/s Power Factor Average: 130 Power Factor Low: 128 Power Factor High: 132 Barometric Pressure: 29 in Hg Temperature: 67 F Weight: 148.0 gr. Powder/Wt: Clays/3.00gr Bullet/Wt: Blue 147gr RN Primer: Fed SPP Case: Fed OAL: 1.20 Gun: S&W 929 / 5" barrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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