theWacoKid Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 16 hours ago, DD78 said: Reading that people have removed material from a $650 steel grip to fit a $125 magwell from another company makes me shake my head. They're all just tools, do whatever makes it work better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDAHOAASHOOTER Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 8 hours ago, Racinready300ex said: Doesn't atlas just use STI mags? "tuned" of course. Before that they just used MBX. Sorry atlas mag well, not mags my bad fat fingered it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDAHOAASHOOTER Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Revofan said: As far as I know atlas doesn’t make there own mags they just tune em so you would still have same issue with mags sticking ??? I meant magwell, not just mags. I obviously wasn't paying attention to what the f*#k I was typing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revofan Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 59 minutes ago, IDAHOAASHOOTER said: I meant magwell, not just mags. I obviously wasn't paying attention to what the f*#k I was typing. Are you saying atlas magwell also fixes mag insertion problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) I also switched to a PT magwell after trying the Limcat for a while on my Atlas. Limcat magwell does not fit the EVO grip well leaving the weird gap on the back. Also I believe it is unnecessary heavy. Also I like the feel of the PT magwell better at least for my hand size (Medium). The original pin that came with the PT magwell is too long. You can either shorten it or use the original pin of the Atlas mag well. It works perfectly for me Edited December 7, 2019 by cheby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punished Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Waybback when I had this angled insertion issue I removed my magwell and dryfire trained with out it. Haven’t had any issues since as I had to focus on correct placement. however, I realize it’s easier to change out magwells now and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Punished said: Waybback when I had this angled insertion issue I removed my magwell and dryfire trained with out it. Haven’t had any issues since as I had to focus on correct placement. however, I realize it’s easier to change out magwells now and call it a day. That is dedication! I like that approach but my guns have the Limcat magwells on them so I’ll just stick with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Punished said: Waybback when I had this angled insertion issue I removed my magwell and dryfire trained with out it. Haven’t had any issues since as I had to focus on correct placement. however, I realize it’s easier to change out magwells now and call it a day. I used to shoot production for a long time. My reloads are alright. The best reloads are the ones that go through without any magwell; however we are all humans including the best of us. The magwell is to help to deal with those mistakes . So you never make any mistakes when reloading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Akai makes a magwell that fixes this too. I don't think it needs fitting on a PT grip. Cheely also makes one for his grips, with a delrin insert like the Dawson Ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDAHOAASHOOTER Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 On 12/6/2019 at 5:10 PM, Revofan said: Are you saying atlas magwell also fixes mag insertion problem? The only one I had issues with was Dawson, atlas is fine, the cheely is actually my preference all day. E2 aggressive is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revofan Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I just bought an E2 aggressive can’t wait to slap it on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punished Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 On 12/7/2019 at 7:49 PM, cheby said: I used to shoot production for a long time. My reloads are alright. The best reloads are the ones that go through without any magwell; however we are all humans including the best of us. The magwell is to help to deal with those mistakes . So you never make any mistakes when reloading? I do in training, as I pushed harder there than reload speed in matches. The key for me on keeping mags straight was not just tossing them in the hole, but to control the magazine in to complete seated position. Once I did this I no longer had the angled jams. I'm sure a big key to this was I shot single stack for a while before moving to limited/open. However, my dryfire has 10-15min of focused training on magazine insertion at the end of each session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhighlan Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 On 12/5/2019 at 8:11 PM, mwc said: I don't get this. I'll admit it helps some, but I can still get stuck magazines with the Limcat magwell. It doesn't completely eliminate the problem. At least not for me. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk You can try a little tuning trick to the mag. Front to back of the mag, just below the opening, try reducing this length slightly by squeezing in a vice. I had a couple that would hang up slightly and others that were smooth. With a little Machinist dye on the mag body I could see a slight rub on the very most front part, 1/2" below point where you can see the second round. Would have never thought that was it but, the dye brought it to my attention pretty quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitestir Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 I had mag issues with the Limcat magwell also. Mbx mags would go into my chaos with the limcat no problem. But new STI 2nd gens would get stuck. The mbx had a more rounded nose in the front then the Sti. When measuring them the Sti was slightly longer front to back at the base of the top opening. I gently massaged them(whacked them with a hammer) at the front curve and “rolled the front” in about .003 or 4 and now they go in no problem even if I start them at a 90 degree angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travail Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 I've seen a couple high volume shooters use graphite or WD-40 in their magwell and the outside of mags to help keep from sticking. No personal experience, but they shoot a lot more than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) There are two different types of "stuck" being described in this thread. One is getting the magazine stuck while inserting it in the first 1/4 of an evo grip. This was corrected by the limcat magwell and the others that followed. The other magazine getting "stuck" in the grip (not dropping when released) is a completely different issue. That is a mag tuning issue and has nothing to do with the magwell. Edited December 14, 2019 by echotango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliYeti Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 12/6/2019 at 4:08 PM, IDAHOAASHOOTER said: Sorry atlas mag well, not mags my bad fat fingered it And it definitly does get suck with an Atlas magwell too. I know they were developing a new one that would be similar to the limcat but I didn't think it was released yet. Hell I've even gotten my mags stuck on the make ready with an atlas magwell. I'm not saying it isn't a good magwell as I've only had a few jams while actually shooting a stage but it isn't doing what the Limcat or what I assume the PT is doing as far as keeping it away fromt he EVO grip so it doesn't jam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I shoot in a ban state. My 10 round mags are 126 long. I would have to buy new mags and a fancy new magwell to prevent this sticking. Instead, I sent my PT grip to Hayes Custom Guns for their grip mod. There is no sticking at all now. Well worth the money, turn around was quick. Reloads are much smoother now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamese35 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 49 minutes ago, zombywoof said: I shoot in a ban state. My 10 round mags are 126 long. I would have to buy new mags and a fancy new magwell to prevent this sticking. Instead, I sent my PT grip to Hayes Custom Guns for their grip mod. There is no sticking at all now. Well worth the money, turn around was quick. Reloads are much smoother now. I wouldn't mind seeing what all they did, if you could send us some pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jamese35 said: I wouldn't mind seeing what all they did, if you could send us some pics. Pics will do nothing. There is no magic there. I really can't see what they did. It is much smoother though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamese35 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 hours ago, zombywoof said: Pics will do nothing. There is no magic there. I really can't see what they did. It is much smoother though. So basically a really good polish job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) . Edited December 19, 2019 by echotango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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