Suggestions for sport pistol in 45 with 200 grain rn plated

[dobies]

Just acquired 4 lbs of sport pistol and plan on using it in 9 and 45. In 45, I have 200 gr. round nose plated bullets and am looking for suggestions on loading soft shooters with reasonable accuracy from my new to me m&p 45 and shield 45.  No access to Chrony at this time. Plinking and speed steel. Thanks in advance. Steve

 

[dobies]

Well,,, I tried 5.0 and 5.1 grains of sport pistol with the 200 gr. rn plated. My 45 shield seems to like the 5.1 better. 5.0 doesn't consistently feed. Still no chrony here. Anyone else 45/200rn and Sport Pistol?

[TrackCage]

While I have not used it in 45, my experience in 9 is that it is very close in charge weight/velocity to titegroup - except that sport pistol burns cooler.

That bit of knowledge seems to be helpful to many, as lots of us have at lease some experience with titegroup.

I'd find some TG load data and back it off a little as a good place to start.

[BJB]

3 hours ago, dobies said:

Well,,, I tried 5.0 and 5.1 grains of sport pistol with the 200 gr. rn plated. My 45 shield seems to like the 5.1 better. 5.0 doesn't consistently feed. Still no chrony here. Anyone else 45/200rn and Sport Pistol?

Go to Alliant's web site and look at their load data.  It's easy to get to.  5.0 & 5.1 grs is way under all they have listed for 45. 

And, all of my loads require a few tenths more Sport Pistol than Titegroup to reach the same PF.

[Dwbsig]

I loaded from 5.0 to 5.8 using 200 lead swc and 5.2 grs was accurate and I like the recoil of that charge it gave me about 810 Fps from a 5” 1911. It’s not the same bullet as you was asking for but it might help.

[pbcaster45]

On 12/13/2019 at 5:00 PM, TrackCage said:

While I have not used it in 45, my experience in 9 is that it is very close in charge weight/velocity to titegroup - except that sport pistol burns cooler.

That bit of knowledge seems to be helpful to many, as lots of us have at lease some experience with titegroup.

I'd find some TG load data and back it off a little as a good place to start.

 

I found that to be true in the 40 S&W too!

 

[dobies]

Thanks for all of the replies.

[pbcaster45]

I was using this combination last night in my S&W 625-8 with full moon clips.  I originally loaded them for my Trophy Match but decided to use them in the revolver.  Full power for sure in a 1911!

 

I've already loaded some more over 5.4 grs. for the Springfield Trophy Match (will try to check the velocity on both charges this weekend)

 

Bullet:  X-Treme 200 gr RN

Powder:  Alliant Sport Pistol 6.0 gr.

Primer:  Federal 150

Case:  Winchester

OAL:  1.250

Edited January 3, 2020 by pbcaster45
added info

[pbcaster45]

I  didn't get to do any chronograph work but 5.4 grs. of SP under a 200 gr. X-Treme was still a little zippier than I like.   I'll go down to 5.0 grs. next time.  I found it works great in my S&W 625-8!

 

 In the S&W 625-8 at 30 feet (eighteen rounds).

 

Bullet:  Hornady 185 gr. Z-Max (with cannelure)

Powder:  Alliant Sport Pistol 6.05 grs.

Primer:  Federal 150

Case:  Winchester .45 ACP

OAL:  1.265

 

 

 

 

Edited January 6, 2020 by pbcaster45

[dobies]

Thanks to all that replied. Been using 5.2 with 200gr. extreme rn, OAL 1.250  in my shield 45 and 01 full size 45. Both pistols seem happy with it, low recoil and full cycling. Don't have access to a chrony, yet. Accuracy is more than acceptable. May give 5.0 a closer look.

 

[pbcaster45]

More work on the S&W 625-8 and Springfield Armory Trophy Match loads.

 

Gun:  Smith & Wesson 625-8 PC

 

Bullet: Hornady 185gr. Z-Max FTX (with cannelure)
Powder: Alliant Sport Pistol 6.8 grs.
Primer: Federal 150
Case: Starline 45 Auto Rim
OAL: 1.265
Average Velocity: 977.80 fps
ES: 106.12
SD: 35.62

 

Gun:  Springfield Armory Trophy Match (Wilson 16 lb. recoil spring, Dawson Alumna Buffer Pad and Wilson Full Length Guide Rod)

 

Bullet: X-Treme 200 gr. Plated RN
Powder: Alliant Sport Pistol 5.4 grs.
Primer: Federal 150
Case: Winchester
OAL: 1.250
Velocity: 843.70 fps
ES: 29.20
SD: 11.48

 

 

Edited April 16, 2020 by pbcaster45

[blue_dot_glock]

i almost have all of the things to start .45 over asp and have two summer's hy-tek bullets, 200gr swc and 233gr rn. i bet i've loaded 20k of hi-tek 9mm over asp, hoping for the same consistent results i've had with nine. 

 

does the dillon seating die keep the same oal when flipping from swc to rn? or does this make any difference? what kind of velocity should i seek/expect out of a glock 30 for gssf? 

[blue_dot_glock]

i loaded up my first test rounds. the lighter loads had a few failures to eject, so i'm going to work 5.4 gr to 6.0 gr and see how they do for accuracy.

 

glock 30
summers swc nlg hi-tek 200 gr bullet (0.124" oal)
asp powder

5.0 gr

Average: 761.3 FPS
SD: 32.0 FPS
Min: 709 FPS
Max: 810 FPS
Spread: 101 FPS

 

5.2 gr
Average: 795.8 FPS
SD: 29.1 FPS
Min: 731 FPS
Max: 824 FPS
Spread: 93 FPS

 

5.4 gr

Average: 836.3 FPS
SD: 9.7 FPS
Min: 820 FPS
Max: 850 FPS
Spread: 30 FPS

 

5.6 gr

Average: 860.0 FPS
SD: 15.4 FPS
Min: 833 FPS
Max: 874 FPS
Spread: 41 FPS