Rpope423 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I recently purchased a square deal B in 40 cal and last night during reloading I noticed I was havin issues knockin primers out here and there, after bout the 5 one I noticed the ones I was having issues with was federals, I could send it through 2-3 times and it would finally push it out. But with them being federals why am I struggling to get the primer out? Found it kinda odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Round off the edges of depriving pin or better yet file a bevel on the tip. The pin is sticking to the primer and pulling it back in. If you take the time to do a search on the forums you can find out all you need to know. Try entering “primer suck back” in the search window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rpope423 Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 10-4 I apologize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 9 hours ago, Rpope423 said: 10-4 I apologize No reason to apologize about asking a question (or making a comment) on a discussion group - that's why we're here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said: No reason to apologize about asking a question (or making a comment) on a discussion group - that's why we're here Agreed. Don’t be sorry, just try searching first. There is a wealth of info already here. Need help with reloading? It’s here. Need help with plumbing? That’s here too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I remember a few times when the primer didn't want to come out, using SDB. Not sure if primer or primer pocket was the cause. It hasn't happened to me in recent years - and I haven't done any mods to the pin. I've been told by Colonels, and Ambassadors, and such, that asking questions is not dumb ... I'll take their words for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m700 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Sarge said: Agreed. Don’t be sorry, just try searching first. There is a wealth of info already here. Need help with reloading? It’s here. Need help with plumbing? That’s here too! Ive been in the business my whole life "$#!? runs down hill" thats 90% of what you need to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m700 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I had this issue with my 9mm carbide die and I pulled pin off and filed it. Helped a bit but not completely. I switched to a Mighty armory solved the problem but now I have to lube my cases:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, m700 said: but now I have to lube my cases:( That's a GOOD thing Makes everything easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rpope423 Posted November 2, 2019 Author Share Posted November 2, 2019 On 10/31/2019 at 1:39 PM, Hi-Power Jack said: That's a GOOD thing Makes everything easier. I’ve always used case lube regardless makes for a smoother index coming off dies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiroshi Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Call Dillion customer service, they will help you with issues you having with SDB. They help me with primer issue i was having with my SDB.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rpope423 Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 Well finally figured out why it hates federals, after rechecking everything and messing around some I noticed after X amount of cases the 1st stage die comes loose just enough to not fully push out the primer and it definitely doesn’t take much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Strange. The dies on my old SDB haven't moved any over the years. Maybe email Dillon customer service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, perttime said: Maybe email Dillon customer service? Better to phone them. I just got off phone with them - Great !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 ... Forgot about phoning - but, then, I'm on the other side of the Earth. Response to email has been great too. Not that I've had need to get in touch with CS all that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 teflon tape will fix your issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rpope423 Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 Yeah I stuck some Teflon tape around it for now, I’ve gotta load some here soon so we’ll see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 On 11/5/2019 at 9:01 AM, AHI said: teflon tape will fix your issue Not familiar with this cure . Where do you stick the tape, and what does it do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 35 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Not familiar with this cure . Where do you stick the tape, and what does it do ? Tape on the threads of the dies. When the blue plastic "friction plate" wears from changing or adjusting dies, there is very little keeping the dies from spinning or losing adjustment. A little tef tape can help snug them back up (long term, the friction plate should be replaced). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Wouldn't Dillon replace the plastic friction plate for free ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Dillon has certainly been very good about replacing broken parts. Had a couple over the years (decades). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Yes Dillon will replace the part 7 to 10 days to get part. Rap some tape around the threads back up and running now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodair Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Just had this exact problem after about 50K rounds on my square deal. It is the friction plate. Removed mine and saw this (pictures) Dillon actually has a video on youtube regarding this under the topic "cleaning the dillon precision square deal B". They show these little pads that seat when the handle is down for the first stage. If they are worn, with the step as in my pictures, the shell does not go down as far. Mine was off the lower plate by about 1/16". The primer pin does not go in as far and the shell does not get sized quite all the way. I was not having sizing problems, but many primers would hang in the pocket and get hung up on the next stage. It took a few years to get this worn. Wrote them a message and I am hoping to see a new one asap. but even their website says they won't answer emails for 7 days. Fingers crossed. Great little machine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ssanders224 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 16 hours ago, goodair said: Just had this exact problem after about 50K rounds on my square deal. It is the friction plate. Removed mine and saw this (pictures) Dillon actually has a video on youtube regarding this under the topic "cleaning the dillon precision square deal B". They show these little pads that seat when the handle is down for the first stage. If they are worn, with the step as in my pictures, the shell does not go down as far. Mine was off the lower plate by about 1/16". The primer pin does not go in as far and the shell does not get sized quite all the way. I was not having sizing problems, but many primers would hang in the pocket and get hung up on the next stage. It took a few years to get this worn. Wrote them a message and I am hoping to see a new one asap. but even their website says they won't answer emails for 7 days. Fingers crossed. Great little machine! While this is good advice (replace the friction plate when the pads are worn), it's not 100% accurate. The pads do not affect the de-priming process. The sizing die itself floats inside the press chassis. The pads are the only thing that stops the die from traveling upward as the case is inserted. However, the de-priming pin is fixed in place by the threads in the tool head. It's spacial relationship to the ram/shellplate does not change as the pads wear. Unfortunately, replacing the friction plate most likely won't solve your d-priming issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodair Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Interesting. I will have to look at that. I did replace the friction plate as I found a spare in a box I had when I bought this thing used years ago. Dillon did get back to me in ONE DAY and has another on the way. Last night I loaded 600 rounds of 9mm 147 blues, and did not have one single primer fail to decap. I was getting one out of 20 before. Didn't change anything else so that is a mystery to me. Maybe something else was going on, but the plate did something good anyway. Also noticed that the cases are being resized a little better/deeper now. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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