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Hey guys, 

 

I just got out of the army and moved to NYC for school. The city actually isn't that bad except I had to leave all my guns in Georgia. I was planning on brining a few up and shooting matches again but I can't even decipher the laws and even cops can't give me consistent answers... 
 

1) Ok so I understand that I'm basically shafted on owning any sort of gun legally within the city. Does anyone know if there's a USPSA-focused range that will allow some sort of storage for a pistol or two?

2) I'm getting told by some people that my normal mags are good to bring up... I just can't load more than 10 rounds. But that sounds... retarded but if it's true it'd be very convenient. Is that correct?

3) I live on manhattan if anyone has any recommendations for where to go, maybe some people to talk to, cause I think part of the issue is I'm surrounded by people that have no idea what they're talking about when it comes to this stuff. 

4) What's the most competitive division in NY? I'm guessing limited 10? Or are people shooting open/CO with 10 round mags? 

Thanks y'all, 
Jeff

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Talk to the people at LIPSA - they're easy to talk to, and very knowledgeable.

 

You might want to travel a little bit, out to PA - your GA gear is all good in PA   :)  

 

There used to be USPSA matches near Poughkeepsie (Dutchess County Pistol Assoc) -

not sure what they're doing now.   

 

You might want to move across the river to NJ - not too much better, but better

than NYC - that's about as bad as it gets   :(   And, it's not a bad commute.

Is your school uptown or downtown ?   Uptown, you take the GWB, and downtown

the Lincoln Tunnel.   During non-rush hour traffic, neither is bad.

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 Ton of steel challenge events at blackrock, not too far from NYC in NY state.    ( assuming you have a car ) ; 

https://practiscore.com/clubs/black-rock-shooting-sports

 

Dutchess does USPSA and steel challenge.  I was there yesterday 

http://www.dcpistol.org

 

NJ events are also prevalent. 

http://steelscoring.com/#/events

 

The rules for rifles vs pistols are very different in NYC.  You might want to major in PCC and rimfire rifle;   There are plenty of hunters in NYC.   LIPSA is a good club and will have some info.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said:

Talk to the people at LIPSA - they're easy to talk to, and very knowledgeable.

 

You might want to travel a little bit, out to PA - your GA gear is all good in PA   :)  

 

There used to be USPSA matches near Poughkeepsie (Dutchess County Pistol Assoc) -

not sure what they're doing now.   

 

You might want to move across the river to NJ - not too much better, but better

than NYC - that's about as bad as it gets   :(   And, it's not a bad commute.

Is your school uptown or downtown ?   Uptown, you take the GWB, and downtown

the Lincoln Tunnel.   During non-rush hour traffic, neither is bad.

I'm uptown. I'm stuck here for at least a year but I'll keep commuting from NJ in mind. 

3 hours ago, jrdoran said:

 Ton of steel challenge events at blackrock, not too far from NYC in NY state.    ( assuming you have a car ) ; 

https://practiscore.com/clubs/black-rock-shooting-sports

 

Dutchess does USPSA and steel challenge.  I was there yesterday 

http://www.dcpistol.org

 

NJ events are also prevalent. 

http://steelscoring.com/#/events

 

The rules for rifles vs pistols are very different in NYC.  You might want to major in PCC and rimfire rifle;   There are plenty of hunters in NYC.   LIPSA is a good club and will have some info.

 

 

No car, but for a once a month thing, I'd be willing to get a rental. Good excuse to buy a PCC, I'll do some research on what's legal up here. Thanks for the tip. 

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17 minutes ago, Jeffreyliu838 said:

 

  I'll do some research on what's legal up here.  

 

Don't forget, the five boroughs of NYC (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens and SI)

are the worst - if you live one mile from NYC in Westchester or Nassau, and have a

permit, it's NOT honored a mile from your home in NYC.

 

NY cops are not allowed to carry in NYC.     :eatdrink:

 

Be sure to find out the rules for NYC and not the surrounding counties.

 

When I moved to Ulster County (80 miles north of the Bronx), I was happy

to find our local judge firmly believed that every good guy should carry

a concealed weapon    :)   Don't know if he's still there.

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20 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said:

 

Don't forget, the five boroughs of NYC (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens and SI)

are the worst - if you live one mile from NYC in Westchester or Nassau, and have a

permit, it's NOT honored a mile from your home in NYC.

 

NY cops are not allowed to carry in NYC.     :eatdrink:

 

Be sure to find out the rules for NYC and not the surrounding counties.

 

When I moved to Ulster County (80 miles north of the Bronx), I was happy

to find our local judge firmly believed that every good guy should carry

a concealed weapon    :)   Don't know if he's still there.

I've unfortunately accepted that the only legal way I'll get to shoot matches is to store my gun outside of the city, which sucks... but it is what it is. I'll be here for four years so it's either that or no shooting at all. Hoping to work out something with LIPSA where they can let me store a gun/mags there. We shall see. 

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If you're looking for USPSA matches:

 

In NY:

- Check out RISE http://www.rocklandindoorshooting.com/about-us/ in Rockland Co.   https://www.practiscore.com/clubs/rise-met07 They are an indoor range and a full pro shop.  They are not cheap as far as regular membership but they run monthly USPSA indoor matches at the usual $20 or 25 rate. Ask to talk to Gian - he is the MD/RM for the matches there and if you need to store something at an FFL rather than a "friend's house" - that might be your best option, IDK, but you can always ask them. Several NYPD Shooting Team members come there fairly often, some of them travel to Majors and compete at a high level. 

- LIPSA is definitely a good choice - they put on some good matches from what i've heard and seen in their stage diagrams. https://www.practiscore.com/clubs/long-island-practical-shooters-association.  it can be a hellish drive to/from Long Island, just be ready :)

 

In NJ 

Shongum https://www.practiscore.com/clubs/shongum-practical-shooters

Old Bridge - i heard a lot of good things, never been but am planning to visit them next season. While they are listed on PS - https://www.practiscore.com/clubs/old_bridge_rifle_pistol_club_uspsa, they dont seem to use it for registration.  You have to go to their site:  http://www.OBCATS.com

 

The ones above (except of LIPSA and Old Bridge, i think) are all local club matches with mostly "stand and shoot" or "shoot 4-move-shoot 4" type of stages.  Not super challenging. if you want to shoot an L1 match that feels like a Major, you'll need to go to PA.

 

In PA:

- Do check out Matamoras next year - Nathan puts on some of the best challenging L1 matches with a great level of talent within 1-2 hour drive distance of your new  location. https://www.practiscore.com/clubs/matamoras-rod-and-gun-club

- A bit further our is the Area 8 host - Ontelaunee https://www.practiscore.com/clubs/ontelaunee-rod-and-gun-club - they are great, if you can make it there - you WILL have a solid challenge no matter what your level is.

 

As far as popular divisions in NY/NJ - not sure what your target class of competition is, but your best challenge in this area will likely be in Production and Carry Optics. Maybe Open. There are plenty of Bs and a few A and M class shooters in these divisions.  All other divisions are  not very competitive in this area.    All divisions in limited states shoot to state imposed limit - so 10 rounds max for all division in NY and NJ.   IMO, if you are limited to 10 rounders - the choice is easy: Production.

 

 

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23 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said:

 

Don't forget, the five boroughs of NYC (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens and SI)

are the worst - if you live one mile from NYC in Westchester or Nassau, and have a

permit, it's NOT honored a mile from your home in NYC.

 

NY cops are not allowed to carry in NYC.     :eatdrink:

 

Be sure to find out the rules for NYC and not the surrounding counties.

 

When I moved to Ulster County (80 miles north of the Bronx), I was happy

to find our local judge firmly believed that every good guy should carry

a concealed weapon    :)   Don't know if he's still there.

NY police officers and certain peace officers are absolutely allowed to carry in NYC.  When you retire only police officers can get NYC carry permits.  Peace officers need to get a good ole boy letter if they want any hope of getting it.

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46 minutes ago, Edge40 said:

NY police officers are absolutely allowed to carry in NYC.  

 

Sorry, when I said NY cops cannot carry in the city, I meant NY cops who are NOT NYC cops.

 

My son-in-law is a Lt with local, upstate police force and he cannot carry concealed in NYC.

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For item #1 if you live in the city, you must have a NYC permit to posses a handgun in NYS. So you need to follow the process to get a NYC possession permit. With a hunting endorsement I believe you can take it outside the 5 Burroughs but be sure to research that. LIPSA is outside the 5 Burroughs.

 

If you try to buy a PCC outside of NYC with a NYC drivers license/address in NY you are going to strike out even if you plan to store it outside NYC.

 

 

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I have a couple of friends who were able to get a concealed permit in NYC, but it was good only during business hours.  And if you carry outside of 8-6 - you're a criminal. It's absolutely idiotic.  One of the key criteria is that you carry large sums of money (or valuables in case of jewelers) for your business needs.  The other is who you know - NYC is a giant cesspool of corruption. In case you dont recall a fairly recent case of NYPD corruption where the approving officers were signing permits for $6K  a pop. But that's not what the OP is asking.

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I live in Manhattan and hangout in Long Island on the weekends. I go to USPSA competitions at LIPSA whenever I can. 

 

1. No place I know of in NY will let you store your pistol there whether its a range or FFL. You will need a pistol permit. If you plan to stay for a while, apply now!

2. Pretty sure you cannot possess any high cap mags (over 10 rounds) in NY state unless you're traveling through or you are LE.

3. As I mentioned I go to LIPSA. Great guys there. I haven't been anywhere else but you can search USPSA site for affiliated ranges. Get to know locals and maybe you can eventually carpool with other competitors.

4. They all seem pretty damn competitive to me but no matter what division you're in, max limit is 10 rds because this state sucks.

 

Also don't bother asking cops what the gun laws are. 99% of them have no idea. The laws are confusing as is. 

 

 

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On 10/27/2019 at 10:27 AM, Jeffreyliu838 said:

 

 

I just got out of the army and moved to NYC for school.... 

Born and raised in NYC. Commuting sucks.  Did it from Westchester for a few years. Traffic has gotten worse and the tolls have gone up a lot. Parking is a clusterf***  If you like to be on someone else's schedule, you may enjoy the trains.

Great place to visit, could never go back permanently as shooting is too important to me. Surfers don't choose to move to North Dakota

 

How long is your program in NYC?  Doing well in school should be your first priority but if USPSA withdrawal is going to be difficult to swallow, transfer schools. 

 

There is not going to be any solution that will even come close to what you potentially had in Georgia.  As a student, the last thing you need to worry about is permits and car rentals and negotiating the logistics of the bureaucracy. Your hobby should not consume that much mental energy.

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