Agent #1911 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) I would like to try Blue Bullets in my unmolested factory barrel. them being .355" diameter bullets, I don't see any issue with OAL but I would like to confirm from those who has been using BB w/ factory throat barrel. definitely sticking with 125 gr. either truncated or RN. what is your preference and why? Edited October 14, 2019 by Agent #1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayTac556 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 I would like to try Blue Bullets in my unmolested factory barrel. them being .355" diameter bullets, I don't see any issue with OAL but I would like to confirm from those who has been using BB w/ factory throat barrel. definitely sticking with 125 gr. either truncated or RN. what is your preference and why? Go with the TC not Round nose or you will have an issue with OAL. I use the 125 Grain BB as well and just order another 7200 of them. I use 125 TC OAL is 1.13. Accuracy is great and very little lead fouling. Also the TC I found to be more accurate over the RN. Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent #1911 Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share Posted October 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, JayTac556 said: Go with the TC not Round nose or you will have an issue with OAL. I use the 125 Grain BB as well and just order another 7200 of them. I use 125 TC OAL is 1.13. Accuracy is great and very little lead fouling. Also the TC I found to be more accurate over the RN. Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk Did the lead build up affect accuracy at all? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnoyesiv Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 That's good to know, thanks. I am looking at the blue bullets to start reloading next year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayTac556 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Did the lead build up affect accuracy at all? Thanks. No not at all. I have 3-to 3.5K through it before I do a deep clean and the accuracy stay the same. Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayTac556 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Did the lead build up affect accuracy at all? Thanks. Very little to no lead build up due to the coating. They are not like shooting straight lead bullets. They are similar to shooting plated bullets. Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngodwetrust21 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 I shoot 147 gr rn blue bullets. They are amazingly accurate and I don’t notice any lead buildup in barrel when cleaning every 5K or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnStewart Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I tested over a dozen different types of 9mm bullets with both of my Stock II’s when I started reloading early last year. I haven’t modified my barrel either. For me, I found that I started to have feed issues if my OAL goes below 1.09”. With that said, for Blue Bullet specifically I found that the 125 RN and 147 RN wouldn’t work well in my barrel (they work great in some of my other pistols). I also validated that I could use 125 TC, 135 TC and 147 FP in my Stock II. Eventually I moved to Everglades 147 RN and I use those exclusively now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp88 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 I had to load at 1.06 with the 125 RN Blue Bullets. They ran fine at that length in the Tanfo but would nose dive in some guns. I ended up sending both barrels to Patriot Defense to have them reamed. That being said, the Blue Bullets don't lead at all and the barrel was pretty clean even with only cleaning every 2k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent #1911 Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) Sounds like the truncated cone profile is the way to go for factory spec barrels. Any decrease in velocity after a throating job? Edited October 15, 2019 by Agent #1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJB Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Agent #1911 said: Sounds like the truncated cone profile is the way to go for factory spec barrels. Any decrease in velocity after a throating job? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJB Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Agent #1911 said: Sounds like the truncated cone profile is the way to go for factory spec barrels. Any decrease in velocity after a throating job? Unless after having it reamed you increase the cartridge OAL a lot but keep the charge weight the same, then yes, slight decrease in velocity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl7evenlxx Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) I just switched from BB and SNS 147gr FP to 135gr TC's The feel of the 135gr TC's are better, faster tracking on the front sight and not as sluggish. I havent done any chrono testing on the 135's, however im runnig 3.4 to 3.5 grains of Alliant Sport Pistol at a OAL of 1.140~1.145* I have a older model stock 2 which seems to let me load a little longer than the new* and a Crimp around .378 This is the Load data of the other 147's i use: Alliant Sport Pistol and Tanfoglio Stock 2 - 4.5inch barrel polygonal SNS 147gr FP- Avg weight 147.7gr- OAL 1.145~1.150- Crimp .376- mixed range brass- fed spp- 5 shots each ladder 70 degrees - pro chrono 10ft 3.0 High 866 Low 831 Avg 849 PF 125~ Ex. S. 35 S.D. 13 3.1 High 877 Low 817 *One Bad round low FPS Avg 848 PF 125~128* Ex. S. 60 S.D. 27 3.2 High 900 Low 863 Avg 880 PF 129~130 Ex.S. 37 S.D. 14 3.3 High 922 Low 888 Avg 909 PF 134~ Ex.S. 34 S.D. 13 3.4 High 943 Low 903 Avg 930 PF 137~ Ex.S. 40 S.D. 17 Blue Bullet 147gr FP- Avg weight 148.6gr- OAL 1.135~1.140- Crimp .376- mixed range brass- fed spp- 5 shots each ladder 70 degrees - pro chrono 10ft 3.0 High 896 Low 853 Avg 870 PF 129~ Ex. S. 43 S.D. 15 3.1 High 891 Low 860 Avg 877 PF 130~ Ex. S. 31 S.D. 12 3.2 High 907 Low 880 Avg 896 PF 133~ Ex.S. 27 S.D. 11 3.3 High 922 Low 903 Avg 913 PF 135~ Ex.S. 19 S.D. 8 3.4 High 945 Low 901 Avg 923 PF 137~ Ex.S. 44 S.D. 16 Edited October 17, 2019 by xxl7evenlxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp88 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 16 hours ago, Agent #1911 said: Sounds like the truncated cone profile is the way to go for factory spec barrels. Any decrease in velocity after a throating job? I lost about 2-3 PF after but I think it's worth it to be able to run any ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent #1911 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 12 hours ago, xxl7evenlxx said: I just switched from BB and SNS 147gr FP to 135gr TC's The feel of the 135gr TC's are better, faster tracking on the front sight and not as sluggish. I havent done any chrono testing on the 135's, however im runnig 3.4 to 3.5 grains of Alliant Sport Pistol at a OAL of 1.140~1.145* I have a older model stock 2 which seems to let me load a little longer than the new* and a Crimp around .358 wow that is a heavy crimp. brass is almost flush with the bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent #1911 Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, tdp88 said: I lost about 2-3 PF after but I think it's worth it to be able to run any ammo. yep I have heard of it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl7evenlxx Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Quote wow that is a heavy crimp. brass is almost flush with the bullet. I mean a .378 crimp... Sorry! What Crimp do you run? Edited October 17, 2019 by xxl7evenlxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent #1911 Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, xxl7evenlxx said: I mean a .378 crimp... Sorry! What Crimp do you run? Same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsn_tx Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 7:48 AM, JohnStewart said: I tested over a dozen different types of 9mm bullets with both of my Stock II’s when I started reloading early last year. I haven’t modified my barrel either. Eventually I moved to Everglades 147 RN and I use those exclusively now. Is there something specific about the Everglades 147 RN that kept you using those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnStewart Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 13 hours ago, rsn_tx said: Is there something specific about the Everglades 147 RN that kept you using those? For me, it was simply a matter of fact that they worked well, so I stuck with them. The backstory.. I decided that I wanted 147 and ideally 147 RN bullets. That eliminated Blue Bullets for me, so then I tested Xtreme (and also Berry) and found that the Xtreme 147 RN and 124 RN worked well in my gun, but the Xtreme 124 FP did not. Since I wanted 147 RN, I started using Xtreme and even continued to use them for a while after they declared Chapter 11 early last year. However, their already marginal customer service fell even further and then I started finding 124 bullets intermixed in my boxes of 147 bullets, from the factory. That was the last straw for me. Unfortunately I didn't catch that fact until after I had already loaded over 1,000 of what I thought were 147's but were a combination of 124's and 147's (thankfully it wasn't the other way around, so I just had a number of powder puff rounds and not overcharged rounds). I insisted on getting a full refund for the thousands I had stockpiled. At that point, I decided to never use Xtreme again (especially when I heard from numerous people who had experienced the same issue)! I had a friend who was using Everglades, so I tried a couple dozen of his 147's and they worked quite well. I made an order and found their customer service to be great, and their delivery time frame was really fast (especially comparing to the multi-month delays I was always dealing with through Xtreme), so I stuck with them. Their product works, prices are good and both service & delivery were great. For me, that was enough to select them and start stockpiling thousands of those bullets. My impression is that there are likely many other bullet manufacturers out there who I would also be happy using, but given that I'm happy with Everglades I found no need to keep searching. I was ready to start spending more time loading en masse instead of continuing to test / chrono various loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsn_tx Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Fair enough.. Thanks for the insight into your decision. Have only loaded 115's, 124's, 135's up to this point. Guess I ought to try some 147's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grsdoug Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I had my Stock II chamber reamed by Bevin Grams. I now load 147 round nose Blue Bullets at 1.160 without issue. 3.3 grains of Titegroup or N320 and I am getting superb accuracy, like 1 inch groups at 20 yards. Better than most other bullets I have tried (115, 124 coated and jacketed and 135 Blues). Super soft shooting, cleans up easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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