ZackJones Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Wiland is local to me. In fact I'm shooting with the owner this weekend. If you guys need anything let me know and I'll ping him about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/8/2019 at 7:17 AM, jrdoran said: We need one of these for the Ruger PCC ! The new take down model? That would be awesome. I'll take mine to the range Sunday and ask about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrdoran Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, ZackJones said: The new take down model? That would be awesome. I'll take mine to the range Sunday and ask about it. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaylanGivens Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 2 hours ago, UFO said: Stock Ruger Reciever, JWH Custom bolt, and Hornet Custom Stinger 2.25 Where do you all buy a Ruger receiver? Is it sold separately or do you have to buy a complete 10/22 to get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koteris Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Sapoutfitters has the receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrdoran Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 https://sapoutfitters.com/product/ruger-1022-stainless-stripped-receiver/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoMc Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Anyone have the weight difference of KIDD drop in trigger vs factory polymer and KIDD trigger kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cferree Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I don't know the exact difference, but it's close to 2.0 +/- ozs. I went from a BX to the single stage Kidd trigger. I don't think I changed any thing else, and my rifle gained about 2 ozs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I have to say this thread has inspired me to consider RFRO. I had briefly considered it before, but dismissed it. Now I'm looking at a Magnum Research Switchbolt Tactical Black Rifle. 4.0 lbs., even thought the reviews say 3 lb. 8 oz. with a Kidd single stage trigger. I'm also looking at a Lead Star arms Prime PCC. So if I get both I can shoot RFRP and RFPO one week and PCC and Open the next. Sounds like a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 The new take down model? That would be awesome. I'll take mine to the range Sunday and ask about it. I would buy 2 ,, love my Ruger pcc just needs to go on a diet Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blurryvisions Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 The shrouds are becoming a very popular option. get a really short barrel, have someone who knows how to run a lathe make you a shroud to be legal and boom you have an extremely lightweight barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 2:03 PM, Blurryvisions said: The shrouds are becoming a very popular option. get a really short barrel, have someone who knows how to run a lathe make you a shroud to be legal and boom you have an extremely lightweight barrel. I don't see the benefit. You can already buy 13oz. 16.1" barrels. Why go to great lengths to save one or two ounces. That being said, I can see this in PCC. With a 6" to 10" barrel you can use the same load you use in your CO, Production or Limited minor gun and minimize recoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blurryvisions Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, zzt said: I don't see the benefit. You can already buy 13oz. 16.1" barrels. Why go to great lengths to save one or two ounces. That being said, I can see this in PCC. With a 6" to 10" barrel you can use the same load you use in your CO, Production or Limited minor gun and minimize recoil. I agree with you on both. I think it may be a decent option for 22 if you are a project kinda guy...and it could be cheaper i suppose. for PCC there is definitely a benefit. you think you can be to light? i haven't ever shot a gun at steel challenge that was super light I always used my green nordic AR-22... its pretty light but i primarily wanted it to be for practicing three gun when i got it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nso123 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I don't necessarily think it is so much about how heavy the barrel is. I think it is more about where the weight is. I have their barrel on my PCC, and what it did was move the weight of the rifle between my pistol grip and my handguard. Yes, it took weight off of the rifle, but by moving it between my arms I am able to swing and stop with what feels like more precision. My times tell me something has improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I don't necessarily think it is so much about how heavy the barrel is. I think it is more about where the weight is. I have their barrel on my PCC, and what it did was move the weight of the rifle between my pistol grip and my handguard. Yes, it took weight off of the rifle, but by moving it between my arms I am able to swing and stop with what feels like more precision. My times tell me something has improved. Yes sir that’s what it’s all about!!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomv Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Actually, you can shoot lighter loads with a longer barrel. Especially if slower powder is used. I run 109 PF ammo in my Open Steel Challenge guns. This load felt mutch hotter in my 16" PCCO with a comp. That barrel would run loads down to 104 -105 PF (measured in a 5" CO gun) which wouldn't run reliably in my open gun. Switched to a Taccom 5" shrouded barrel in the PCC and the Open loads run just fine with minimal recoil and dot movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomv Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Of course, results might change if loading to make a PF requirement. I don't have any personal experience so I can't comment on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer002 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 I now have Wilandusa barrels on both my .22 rifle and pcc. Both are amazing and super accurate. The weight difference is very present, even just dropping between 2 and 3 ounces going from the TacSol to the Wiland because of the weight coming off the end of the barrel. Very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Hammer002 said: I now have Wilandusa barrels on both my .22 rifle and pcc. Both are amazing and super accurate. The weight difference is very present, even just dropping between 2 and 3 ounces going from the TacSol to the Wiland because of the weight coming off the end of the barrel. Very fast. After talking with them this morning, I decided to go the same way. I ordered the 22 barrel for a build I'm assembling. I had planned to do the same for the PCC. However, the one I want is only sold with a barrel and comp. If I can get it with the Lead Star 16" pencil barrel and comp, I'll do it and swap out the barrels. Unfortunately, the only ones coming in have the BSF 16.1" barrel and comp. That's $449 for the barrel and $79 for the comp. I'll have to think about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomv Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 `Why not use a shrouded 22 barrel? That's probably the lightest configuration with no compensator issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, tomv said: `Why not use a shrouded 22 barrel? That's probably the lightest configuration with no compensator issues. That's what I'm going to do as soon as I sell the BSF barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomv Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I bought a 4.5 " CMMG 22 barrel and sent it to Taccom for assembly into their upper. Already had the CMMG conversion bolt for my 5.56 AR so all I had to buy was a collar to convert the bolt to a dedicated .22. About $ 150.00 for barrel and collar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stre-tch Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) On 10/28/2019 at 9:31 AM, Hammer002 said: I now have Wilandusa barrels on both my .22 rifle and pcc. Both are amazing and super accurate. The weight difference is very present, even just dropping between 2 and 3 ounces going from the TacSol to the Wiland because of the weight coming off the end of the barrel. Very fast. what kind of accuracy are you getting at 50 yards? Want to make a LW gun for my younger kids, was going with a ULW Kidd barrel but if this shoots well then I will maybe buy one I assume you can’t get it threaded so you can suppress it if wanted to? Only 6” barrel with a shroud ...hmmmmm... Edited November 3, 2019 by stre-tch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, stre-tch said: Want to make a LW gun for my younger kids, was going with a ULW Kidd barrel I was going to do the same until I talked to Todd at Wiland, and read some reviews here. Todd won't quote anything other than 1.5" at 50 yards, for obvious reasons. He will tell you he gets much better grouping with his steel load. That is for 9mm. Here is what I went with for an ultra-light build. Blackhawn Axion stock, 18 oz. Tactical Innovations left hand receiver with bolt, charging handle and Tactical Solutions V-block and screws, 17 oz. Weigand LLW 16.1" barrel (5.5" barrel with brazed on shroud). 11 oz. Romeo5 red dot, 5.1 oz. Kidd Single Stage trigger and pins, ?. Hasn't arrived yet. So 51.1 oz. so far plus whatever the trigger weighs. It will be under 4 lbs. Edited November 3, 2019 by zzt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomv Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I have an Ultralight Volquartsen barrelled action, no comp, with an axiom stock and C-more slide ride. The factory will drill and tap the receiver for the sight so the slide ride bolts right on. 3# 9 oz. Great trigger, gun runs 100%. Easiest way to get to a super light .22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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