b1indfire Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 So I took my new 627 to the range, and threw about 300 rounds of various brands down the tube. Came back and it was like this. Is this normal? https://imgur.com/a/Eo0wnaH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1valdez Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 That’s normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Yup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1indfire Posted July 30, 2019 Author Share Posted July 30, 2019 Great! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 That's NOT "wear and tear", just dirt, soot. Wash it away with Hoppes 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) i've never seen casing marks on the frame (behind the cylinder not the one being fired) before...(last picture) Edited July 30, 2019 by racerba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Not normal at all! It's still clean enough that you can see some silver on the cylinder. Try changing to Unique powder, or shoot a Rhino like me. Then it'll be appropriately dirty . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 To me it looks like you are just shooting dirty ammo, with lots of lead and soot getting on the gun. The round circle marks just look like they are in the soot on the recoil shield. The dirt goes from the cylinder gap up along the underside of the topstrap, then down across the face of the recoil shield.you can see how it fans out above the center pin hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1indfire Posted July 31, 2019 Author Share Posted July 31, 2019 Well, I'm shooting PPU LRN. Is that considered dirty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, b1indfire said: Well, I'm shooting PPU LRN. Is that considered dirty? 3 minutes ago, b1indfire said: Yes, any lead round is dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1indfire Posted July 31, 2019 Author Share Posted July 31, 2019 So should I switch to shooting jacketed rounds only? That's going to be a lot more expensive, especially since I don't have room for reloading (apartment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45 Raven Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Is the soot/carbon interfering with the revolver's functionality? Or is it an issue of aesthetics that you simply cannot tolerate? If the gun is providing acceptable reliability and accuracy, just shoot it and give it a good cleaning as necessary. Lewis, Hoppe's, and other manufacturers make "lead removers" and cloths made to help make this job easier. There are also other ammunition manufacturers that produce and sell cast bullet ammo that likely would shoot cleaner than the specific load you are using. A revolver (especially one with a stainless finish) isn't going to be "pretty" after a range session or match. Remedied by cleaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 9 hours ago, b1indfire said: So should I switch to shooting jacketed rounds only? That's going to be a lot more expensive, especially since I don't have room for reloading (apartment). PPU is pretty dirty stuff, I used to shoot it before starting to reload. Cheap powder Cheap primers Soft lead All equal for a dirty revolver. Unless the quality of the ammo or residue bothers you , keep at it - just need a little more attention for cleaning. Once you start to reload / different ammo with higher quality components you'll notice you'll get between ALOT more rounds before having to due a good cleaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 All good advice above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMM50 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 If you got to a major match and shoot 200-500 rounds in a day you will need a gun / ammo combination that functions reliably and maintains accuracy through out the match. If you shoot 150 rounds a week and never clean you gun all season you are looking at the same issues. Of course you can brush out the cylinder and opening in the frame after each stage. But that's not a fix. Sometimes you shoot last on one stage and first on the next. So if your chasing cleanliness just for looks good luck. Build a gun and get ammo that is not sensitive to some dirt, go shooting and enjoy. If you practice every day as the top shooters do, cleaning will consume much of your time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Remember FMJ's usuall have an exposed lead base and will also be a bit dirty. CMJ's or JHP's will be the cleanest. And usually JHP's are the most accurate due to the base being squared during the formation of the HP. It seems that the build up is usually self limiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Lead bullets can be messy. You get some lead in barrel, cylinder and around the cylinder gap; lubricant residues all over the place; and soot from the powder. I like to reload with copper plated bullets, and look for powder charges that shoot well, meet any power requirement that I might have, and have enough pressure to minimize soot and unburned powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 OP, are you shooting black powder loads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1indfire Posted July 31, 2019 Author Share Posted July 31, 2019 No functional issues with the revolver, I'm just new to revolvers and didn't realize they get like this so quick so I was a little worried. Thanks for the great info everyone! @ysrracer I'm shooting factory loads, so yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 On 7/30/2019 at 4:07 PM, racerba said: i've never seen casing marks on the frame (behind the cylinder not the one being fired) before...(last picture) Is the mark or scratch on the back where the center pin in the extractor slides an actual gouge in the metal? as I can see some metal hanging right where the pin starts to enguage the frame, Or is there so much crude that it is just crude and can be wiped off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 OP, my 627 looked worse than that. I finally cleaned it today, and the damn trigger pull got two pounds lighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1indfire Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 On 7/31/2019 at 8:09 PM, revoman said: Is the mark or scratch on the back where the center pin in the extractor slides an actual gouge in the metal? as I can see some metal hanging right where the pin starts to enguage the frame, Or is there so much crude that it is just crude and can be wiped off? Those are actual gouges, but are very shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, b1indfire said: Those are actual gouges, but are very shallow. There should be some marks like scratches but it shouldn’t be gouging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1indfire Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share Posted August 5, 2019 It's a very shallow gouge, pretty much a scratch. I can't feel it with the pad of my finger, only if I run my nail along it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 As long as it doesn’t get worse you should be okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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