Byron320X5 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) Hi forum, I'm looking for a good load recipe for .40 minor in a Stock ll. Currently have Sport Pistol and SNS 180, Blue 200s that I use out of my Limited Tanfo. I'm not opposed to trying new powder or bullet weights. I have seen some info on Clay's but never used it. Is it Clay's or Universal or Clay Dot that folks use in .40 minor? Also is WST a good option as well? What are thoughts on 165gr? Much thanks Edited July 24, 2019 by Byron320X5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortyOverUnder Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I also have a Stock II in 40. I’ve shot 40 minor for many years. I do love Clays (regular Clays) for minor, but for some reason I’m finding that Titegroup is gaining on me. I’ve always shot 40 minor in polymer guns and maybe that has something to do with it. I’m not sure what it is exactly. All of my loads were based on 180gr bullets. I have played around with 200s but it’s not worth it in my opinion. I don’t have a real opinion on 165s. My Clays load was 3.0gr @ 1.135My current Titegroup load is 3.5gr @ 1.135I do LOVE WST, but for major loads in other guns. Not for minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Regular Clays (not Universal, or International) is great for 40 minor. 3.0 to 3.2 with a 180 bullet is so soft it will make you giggle when you shoot it. Clays and Alliant Clay Dot should use the same recipes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron320X5 Posted July 25, 2019 Author Share Posted July 25, 2019 Thanks guys really appreciate the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdinga Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Depending on the gun, I use 3.8-4.o grains of WST, SNS 180 FP. Mild, accurate and clean in several guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron320X5 Posted July 30, 2019 Author Share Posted July 30, 2019 I picked up some Clay's today so it will be a couple weeks before I can go test and chrono. I was watching some of Bulm540 vids of YouTube and I'm about trying some 165gr as well. Forty, I've always heard the Titegroup runs hot in guns, is it different shooting minor? Thanks again guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FortyOverUnder Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I picked up some Clay's today so it will be a couple weeks before I can go test and chrono. I was watching some of Bulm540 vids of YouTube and I'm about trying some 165gr as well. Forty, I've always heard the Titegroup runs hot in guns, is it different shooting minor? Thanks again guysIt does run hotter but the impulse feels right. It’s definitely not major and still softer than some 9 IMO. You will enjoy Clays once you dial it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrabs Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I have developed a very accurate and soft minor load for my 40 cal CZ SA. Accurate Molds 150gr SWC (40-150H). 4.1 gr. WST. 50 feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 3.8 grains of WST with 165s BBIs 134 PF in my stock 2. Nice soft load and very accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron320X5 Posted July 31, 2019 Author Share Posted July 31, 2019 9 hours ago, bulm540 said: 3.8 grains of WST with 165s BBIs 134 PF in my stock 2. Nice soft load and very accurate. I subbed your YouTube channel, I like the way those 165s look. Definitely will give that a try as well, can I ask what # recoil spring you're using? Thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 8 pounds. Temp during chrono session was about 89 degrees and humid as hell. 1.120 oal Edited July 31, 2019 by bulm540 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byron320X5 Posted July 31, 2019 Author Share Posted July 31, 2019 2 hours ago, bulm540 said: 8 pounds. Temp during chrono session was about 89 degrees and humid as hell. Thank you Sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Sport pistol should do fine. Personally I always followed this formula for 40 minor. Take my 180 gr major load, buy same MFG same profile 155 gr bullets. Do nothing else to my press but swap bullets. Same powder same die settings same everything. You will end up with a 140 ish pf load that will cycle same gun without a spring change and shoot same POI as the 180 loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 On 7/31/2019 at 6:00 AM, Joe4d said: Sport pistol should do fine. Personally I always followed this formula for 40 minor. Take my 180 gr major load, buy same MFG same profile 155 gr bullets. Do nothing else to my press but swap bullets. Same powder same die settings same everything. You will end up with a 140 ish pf load that will cycle same gun without a spring change and shoot same POI as the 180 loads. I've done the same with Bayou 140gr and got 130 PF, make life easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Doing some testing with 180 BBIs temp at 94 degrees and humid as hell Powder: Clays @ 3.2 grains OAL: .1.125 145 Power factor. 806 813 805 811 794 809 816 806 789 811 SD: 8.4 Looks like 2.9 or 3.0 grains maybe the sweet spot. I Will test again next week. I hardly notice any smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRussell Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 I've got a Major/Minor load that I use with Sport Pistol, just change the pills. It's 4.4gr Sport Pistol, Fiocchi SP primers, 1.125 OAL. Major load use a 180gr BBI/Gallant for 172pf Minor load use a 155gr for 140pf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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