Khaot1c Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 If - during a course of fire - you shoot your firearm before you 'mean to' should you DQ yourself? Would being at a local or Major match change your mind? Example: WSB calls for switch of hands from strong hand to weak hand after a mandatory reload. Upon performing reload, shooter switches hand and presents gun to target. Scenario 1: The sights are close to the target but not in an ideal alignment for taking the shot. Meanwhile, the trigger finger gets into the trigger guard and presses the trigger -before actually finishing the sight alignment. Scenario 2: Shooter is shooting strong or weak hand only. Engaging targets and bumps the trigger - causing a 'double tap' instead of a controlled pair. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kixx Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Neither of these scenarios break the rules so..... no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I wouldn't dq myself for those things, nor would I dq another shooter. That stuff is safe, and allowed by the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, motosapiens said: I wouldn't dq myself for those things, nor would I dq another shooter. That stuff is safe, and allowed by the rules. what he said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, racerba said: what he said... What he said again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 Play to the whistle...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoMiE Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 #1 - No #2 - No As long as you don’t shoot within 10 feet(with exceptions) or shot doesn’t leave berm, keep shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I had a NROI instructor tell me you can’t DQ yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elguapo Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, rishii said: I had a NROI instructor tell me you can’t DQ yourself Maybe not. But you can stop, unload and show clear, and then withdraw (DNF) which achieves the same exact thing. Edited June 24, 2019 by elguapo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 idpa, small local match, i didn't have to, but dq'd myself. i was pressing out, on target, and my elbow or wrist or something hit a barricade that the ro/so had been moving around so i lit one off before i intended to, hit the target but unnerved me a little. not a dq by the rules though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 6/24/2019 at 7:37 AM, elguapo said: Maybe not. But you can stop, unload and show clear, and then withdraw (DNF) which achieves the same exact thing. That’s pretty much what I did, AD on a reload, ulsc, holstered and told the a fairly new RO to DQ me, I told he story to the instructor and his reply was you can’t DQ yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elguapo Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 hours ago, rishii said: That’s pretty much what I did, AD on a reload, ulsc, holstered and told the a fairly new RO to DQ me, I told he story to the instructor and his reply was you can’t DQ yourself Right, except you don't need to ask for a DQ. Just say you're withdrawing from the match. You don't even need to give a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Ammo Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 As has been stated, no trip to DQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1911 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I'd the ref don't call it, carry on boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Part_time_redneck Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 For a DQ you have to quote the rule that was violated. Both scenarios sound like you just fired a mike. Shooting sports are a lot like golf. The rules work in your favor, if you know them well. Your post does show that you exibit good sportsmanlike behavior though. Take those scenarios as a wake up call and bump up the dry fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levellinebrad Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 If i shot myself in the foot, I’d argue the dq. I’d swear up and down that that’s where I was aiming and just mistook it for a target! Then of course I would demand a reshoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happygunner77 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 There's a shooter I've seen on video intentionally doing an AD to get a dq since his performance sucked. Did this more than one match too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacomandood Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Lol I guess you could “DQ yourself if you wanted to waste your time, ammo, and match fees? I get wanting to abide by the rules and putting safety above all else, but the scenario you described 1) doesn’t break any of the rules as they are written, and 2) should be left to a certified RO to determine whether your actions were considered unsafe and make that call. Now as far as the guy mentioned above that intentionally AD’d to get a DQ instead of taking their garbage match performance, that should be considered unsportsmanlike conduct and maybe grounds for a temporary ban/restriction from whatever club they’re at. It’s honestly more childish than anything though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman195 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 An on target AD is not an AD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchman195 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 19 hours ago, levellinebrad said: If i shot myself in the foot, I’d argue the dq. I’d swear up and down that that’s where I was aiming and just mistook it for a target! Then of course I would demand a reshoot Technically if you won the Challenge, Could you go to the hospital and get back and finish the match the following day? Or is that up to the MD to let you switch squads to a different day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 6.5.1 Competitors must compete for score according to the published match and squadding schedule. A competitor who is not present at the scheduled time and date for any stage may not attempt that stage without the prior approval of the Match Director or Range Master, failing which the competitor’s score for that stage will be zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elguapo Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, waktasz said: 6.5.1 Competitors must compete for score according to the published match and squadding schedule. A competitor who is not present at the scheduled time and date for any stage may not attempt that stage without the prior approval of the Match Director or Range Master, failing which the competitor’s score for that stage will be zero. Well you're no fun...…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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