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Hello,

 I would like to load some precision delta 124 jhp that will work in all my 9mm guns (sti, glock, sig, springfield, cz, h&k, and Kimber) and need some help with the best oal to use for all these pistols.

 Thanks,

 Tim

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Only YOU can answer that  ….

 

You really have to run The Plunk Test, with that bullet, in all seven of your guns,

and take the shortest.

 

Then, you have to see if that short round shoots well in all seven guns.

 

You might be well served with different OAL's for different guns - hard to tell

without testing them.

 

BUT, that's the fun of reloading.     :) 

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As said earlier PD load to 1.100, but in my testing I got better accuracy at 1.080". I have shot at that length for years and this is my goto bullet. Works in all my guns from 1911's to short chambered CZ's. Do a search for my name and you should see a spreadsheet with all my loadings. 

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Thanks for the replies.

 I just want to load some stuff for plinking and can be used in all the guns. For my competition guns I load long and it won't work in some of the pistols.

When the kids want to shoot, they want to try all the guns and it gets to be a pain figuring out which ammo fits what gun and I'm hoping to find a length that will work in them all and it will simplify things.

 Thanks again for the info and I'll try some at 1.100 and see how it works.

 Tim

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On 6/18/2019 at 12:43 PM, Darrell said:

As said earlier PD load to 1.100, but in my testing I got better accuracy at 1.080". I have shot at that length for years and this is my goto bullet. Works in all my guns from 1911's to short chambered CZ's. Do a search for my name and you should see a spreadsheet with all my loadings. 

 

Darrell I just bought 2000 rounds 9mm JHP 124gr what did you find as a good 9mm load? I have been loading 38, never 9mm I have Vn 320 and Vn330 with Win231 Bullseye and Trail Boss. Thanks

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The N320 is The Classic load for 9mm minor.

 

Seem to recall that Darrell thought the N330 was the most accurate ??   Might be wrong there.

 

I have used WW231 for decades and think it's a great powder for 9mm and .45.

 

As Darrell said, search for Darrell and you'll find the answer to your question.     :) 

 

You might want to provide a little more info re: your request.  What's your intended

use of the powder ?   USPSA ?   Steel ?  What velocity are you looking for ?   etc

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After reading several threads on this exact same topic I loaded some JHP test rounds last night at 1.09” for a shadow 2. Raining today and the wife is celebrating another trip around the sun but I’ll report back hopefully tomorrow. 

 

I did test PD’s 124 -FMJ earlier and here’s what I got. 

 

Was in the 60’s and COAL was just under 1.13”. Didn’t plug in the 4gr load since this was closer to my goal of 132-135 pf. The “TG” is titegroup.

 

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7 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said:

The N320 is The Classic load for 9mm minor.

 

Seem to recall that Darrell thought the N330 was the most accurate ??   Might be wrong there.

 

I have used WW231 for decades and think it's a great powder for 9mm and .45.

 

As Darrell said, search for Darrell and you'll find the answer to your question.     :) 

 

You might want to provide a little more info re: your request.  What's your intended

use of the powder ?   USPSA ?   Steel ?  What velocity are you looking for ?   etc

 

Thank you for all the good information, the guns Smith & Wesson M&P M2.0 9mm 5" FDE with a few Glocks, 34, 19. Most of the shooting is open range or indoor range 50 ft. 

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3 hours ago, SlappyMcTrigger said:

After reading several threads on this exact same topic I loaded some JHP test rounds last night at 1.09” for a shadow 2. Raining today and the wife is celebrating another trip around the sun but I’ll report back hopefully tomorrow. 

 

I did test PD’s 124 -FMJ earlier and here’s what I got. 

 

Was in the 60’s and COAL was just under 1.13”. Didn’t plug in the 4gr load since this was closer to my goal of 132-135 pf. The “TG” is titegroup.

 

Thank you, SlappyMc Trigger, I look forward to the update.... 

 

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Here is the info from today. 68° and overcast. Perfect day really. COAL was just shy of 1.10”. Didn’t weigh these and just put in 124 so the pf could be a little off. Accuracy was as good as I can shoot (not much of a bullseye guy hence my screen name). Shot out of the same shadow 2 from above. 

 
       
124 PD- JHP
3.75 gr. TG
CCI
       
       
Average Weight 124
       
FPS 1051
  1082
  1087
  1087
  1086
  1069
  1055
       
SD   15.6
Average FPS   1074
Average PF   133.2
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On 1/10/2020 at 9:28 PM, EJMK22 said:

 

Darrell I just bought 2000 rounds 9mm JHP 124gr what did you find as a good 9mm load? I have been loading 38, never 9mm I have Vn 320 and Vn330 with Win231 Bullseye and Trail Boss. Thanks

Is this for USPSA/IDPA or steel? 4.8-5.0 N330 at an OAL of 1.080 is one of my most accurate 124 JHP load. 4.0 of Tightgroup is second. 

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On 6/18/2019 at 10:24 AM, EEH said:

Load to factory specs.

While helpful, factory specs are not always a good thing.  It's a start but not definitive per se.  You still have to do your own homework, plunk test, chrono, barrel length velocity numbers to see if you're even making PF.   Factory specs is a start though, but I highly suggest you do your personal homework and testing prior to using your ammo...  Just my 2 cts!

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I ran thousands of these through a g17 with a CMC barrel, a g34 with a stock barrel, and an STI Trojan single stack with a stock barrel. 
 

I loaded them to 1.100 with win231 and cci500’s and they shot very well and fed in everything with no issues. 
 

Last time I needed bullets they were back ordered and I ended up buying a crap ton from Everglades ammo instead but I’d they don’t work as well, I’ll just pay more attention to PD and not let my stash get so low when they’re in stock. 

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