Red_Dot Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 (edited) I wanted to share a build that’s currently in progress and will likely continue to be tinkered with. I snagged this pistol for a really good deal shortly after it was approved for USPSA Production and instantly started planning to putting an optic on it. I was previously shooting a Shadow 2 with a dot and after handling the Bull Shadow, I could tell where the Shadow 2 was working against me. The frame and particularly the checkering on the front/back straps of the Shadow 2 added girth that my extremely Medium sized hands wasn’t fond of. Additionally, the hump on the backstrap was fighting against my palm/thumb area unevenly when gripping hard and it showed when i compared groups at distance. Finally, the Bull Shadow has a center of balance much closer to the grip area which just feels better to me in general. The current modification list is short because it comes very well appointed from CZC, but I just can’t leave well enough alone... Romeo 3 optic (3MOA) SSI Scales 2.0 grips in Brass 10lb recoil spring (Match ammo) 13lb recoil spring (factory 124gr ammo) 11lb hammer spring CZ Czechmate Slide Stop Pin CZC 140mm Basepads on 16rnd tubes Future Modifications under consideration CZC Short Reach Trigger Extra Large Safety Levers Progressive recoil spring Edited May 21, 2019 by Red_Dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d13s3l Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 looks pretty slick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmanick Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Sweet!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Looks like a great build. Love my 75 Bull Shadow CO pistol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasdawg Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Nice gun, cool to see something different. Whats the difference in weight of the brass verses regular ssi grips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dot Posted May 22, 2019 Author Share Posted May 22, 2019 10 hours ago, texasdawg said: Nice gun, cool to see something different. Whats the difference in weight of the brass verses regular ssi grips? Normal Scales - 42 grams brass scales - 120 grams Henning grips - 53 grams Stock CZC grips - 52 grams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert.a.brewer. Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Normal Scales - 42 grams brass scales - 120 grams Henning grips - 53 grams Stock CZC grips - 52 gramsPlease don't take this the wrong way, but how does your gun with both a bull barrel and brass grips make CO weight?IIRC, the S2 with a red dot necessitates weight reduction in at least a couple areas. What am I missing? Is the CZC gun much lighter than the S2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, robert.a.brewer. said: Please don't take this the wrong way, but how does your gun with both a bull barrel and brass grips make CO weight? IIRC, the S2 with a red dot necessitates weight reduction in at least a couple areas. What am I missing? Is the CZC gun much lighter than the S2? 75 Bull Shadow with dot and 140 mags is only like 43-44 ounces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, robert.a.brewer. said: Please don't take this the wrong way, but how does your gun with both a bull barrel and brass grips make CO weight? IIRC, the S2 with a red dot necessitates weight reduction in at least a couple areas. What am I missing? Is the CZC gun much lighter than the S2? Look at the frame of the bull shadow and compare it to the shadow 2. The dust cover on the bull shadow is way shorter than the shadow 2. That alone reduced the weight of the bull shadow substantially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dot Posted May 23, 2019 Author Share Posted May 23, 2019 8 hours ago, robert.a.brewer. said: What am I missing? Is the CZC gun much lighter than the S2? The Shadow2 is 5oz heavier than the Bull shadow to start with and adding the optic actually reduced the weight of the slide by about a half oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert.a.brewer. Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I like this bull shadow. The gun seems to fit nicely into CO, and mitigate the weight restriction. Also like those brass scales grips; maybe better than orange anodized aluminum... maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climbhard Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Hows this gun shoot compared to say am SP01 shadow? Im looking to set up a CO gun and wondering if its worth the extra 500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dot Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Climbhard said: Hows this gun shoot compared to say am SP01 shadow? Im looking to set up a CO gun and wondering if its worth the extra 500 I don’t see a $500 price difference between the Bull shadow and an SP01 Shadow Target. im still thrilled with this pistol regardless. CZC has done an incredible job with this pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dog Howie Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 who did you optic cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Dot Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Big Dog Howie said: who did you optic cut I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarker13 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Working on a similar build - with the SRO optic. One downside of that optic is that you can't fit it directly to the slide - which I had hoped to do. Cajun says the screw pattern on the SRO is too wide to work on the slide. So it has to use an aluminum mounting plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferris Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 tbarker13, it looks like Cajun is now offering an RMR and SRO cut without an adapter plate. looks like they're able to get it pretty low. https://www.instagram.com/p/B1PYPJHALgQ/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarker13 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Weird. I asked them about it and they said they don't do that. Said the slide is too narrow. They have my slide right now. That's a little confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarker13 Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Well, just cleared the up mystery. Just talked to Cajun. Apparently, the serrations on the Bull Shadow cut deeply enough into the slide that there's not enough room to do a direct mount - even with smaller screws. So, if you want to direct mount, it sounds like the Shadow II is the way to go. Sort of makes me wish I'd gone that route - as I'd rather avoid the aluminum mounting plate. But too late now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferris Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 That makes sense! yeah I should have clarified that it was for the Shadow 2, think I had a couple of different threads mixed up when I responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dog Howie Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 18 hours ago, Red_Dot said: I did. Nice work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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