currahee1911 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Hi, Cost about the same. Any preference? Any difference. Thanks, C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I used to use a lot of WW, before the Russians dropped the price on primers. BUT, I've heard that some people have problems with out of round WW's sticking in their primer feed tubes - think I have had a few of those also.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Winchester. You won't find many using Remington primers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elguapo Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, GrumpyOne said: You won't find many using Remington primers. Why's that? Remington 7 1/2s are the cat's meow for 223. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKnoch Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I’ve had good luck with Remington’s SPP when I’ve used them (not much). I mostly use Winchester and don’t have issues with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 5 hours ago, elguapo said: Why's that? Remington 7 1/2s are the cat's meow for 223. Maybe for 223, but not in pistol. The cups are harder, and the anvil is not seated completely when you take them out of the package. The only primers I have ever had issue with are Remington's. Thousands upon thousands of Winchester with no issues, no issues with CCI, none with S&B, none with Magtech...only Remington. In one brick, I bet I had 30 failures with Remington...I bet I haven't had 10 failures in 100,000 Winchester primers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Tula - if you have any. I use the small rifle magnum in 9mm, .45ACP and .223/5.56. Both pistol calibers are in 1911s so have no ignition problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elguapo Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 hour ago, GrumpyOne said: In one brick, I bet I had 30 failures with Remington.. Yeah that's unacceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elguapo Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Steve RA said: I use the small rifle magnum in 9mm Do you know what pressure your loads generate with that combo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) No idea at all, primers look good. Velocity avg of 10 rounds is 1062 FPS average with a 130gr coated bullet. This is with 3.2 grs of Australian Clays and OAL is 1.167 in a KKM barrel, which has been throated slightly. .45 load is same primer with 4.2gr of same Clays and a 200 gr LSWC and it makes Major with no problems. I use the same brand of cases with each caliber -- Win for 9mm, Federal for .45 and LC for .223. Edited May 7, 2019 by Steve RA Extra a in average - PP proof reading! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Here is a 25 yard group, off a rest, with the .45 and above load. 9mm is not quite as good yet, but will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Winchester spp for me. Been using them almost exclusively for 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Steve RA said: Here is a 25 yard group, off a rest Really a shame that the last shot you fired, the one at the top left, opened that great group up so much. Nice shooting, Steve …. for a Texan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 When you are old and feeble you can only do so much ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Steve, you're preaching to the choir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novagunner Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I have been using Winchester SPs (when I can't get Federal) and i occasionally have an out of round one that I have to tap on the primer tube to get it to go into the press's tube but the primer follower rod is enough to keep them flowing during loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Watson Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 I have a supply of WW, and have used CCI at times. I need Federals for lightly sprung revolvers. All work fine. I bought some RP 1 1/2 small pistol during the Panic. They are not satisfactory. I have seen misfires, craters, smears, and pierced/blanked cups. I have one gun that will shoot them reliably, so I will be using them up in that Springfield. Wolf brand was not so hot, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamCarverCustom Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Federal small pistol primers have never given me an issue at 175 power factor out of an Open Glock 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaot1c Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Remington small pistol 1 1/2 (and small rifle 6 1/2) have warnings about using them in high pressure rounds like 40S&W and .223 I'm not sure how that warning and "hard cups" go together. When Federal primers dried up (yes, this was years ago) I switched to Remington for use in modified Glocks. The Remingtons would ignite when Winchester, CCI, and S&B did not. Since then, I've used Rem 1 1/2 in all my 9mm loads - though I no longer shoot heavily modified Glocks. I've already read reports of folks saying Fed primers led to abnormal breach face wear with 170+ PF loads. Though, TeamCarverCustom post says theirs have been fine. Curious though about that warning on Remington 1 1/2 primers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm2953 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 I love the Remington 1 1/2’s for 9mm minor. I get 20 extra FPS with them over CCI and Winchester. I have had zero light strikes or malfunctions with remingtons. Out of multiple different pistols. I think people get the 1 1/2 and 5 1/2 mixed up. I would buy more but I can’t ever find them cheaper than CCI or Winchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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