Weever82 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 So I have been on here talking about my new Range Officer and that I am a newb with 1911's. I'm purchasing all goodies to get running in SS matches. I went to shoot it at the range yesterday for the first time with my reloads and roughly 59/60 rounds either failed to eject, failed to feed or got stuck in the barrel... 130pf, 1.124 115gr, 124gr and 147gr berrys HBFP... These are the rounds I shoot in my shadow 2 for a few years now. I also shoot these exact rounds in my buddies RO for about 10 magazines worth flawless. Even though my RO is new, I am not the original owner so I don't think I can send it into Springfield... Possibly the barrel needs "reemed" out... Super bummed.. saved up over a year for this gun. Any thoughts? Thanks for reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 So I have been on here talking about my new Range Officer and that I am a newb with 1911's. I'm purchasing all goodies to get running in SS matches. I went to shoot it at the range yesterday for the first time with my reloads and roughly 59/60 rounds either failed to eject, failed to feed or got stuck in the barrel... 130pf, 1.124 115gr, 124gr and 147gr berrys HBFP... These are the rounds I shoot in my shadow 2 for a few years now. I also shoot these exact rounds in my buddies RO for about 10 magazines worth flawless. Even though my RO is new, I am not the original owner so I don't think I can send it into Springfield... Possibly the barrel needs "reemed" out... Super bummed.. saved up over a year for this gun. [emoji26] Any thoughts? Thanks for readingdid you try the plunk test with your ammo in the RO? 147s are usually longer and need to go shorter. Or, it could need more crimp too Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSandMan491 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Sounds like you need to check extractor tension and radius. Fairly common for production 1911s to not have perfect extractor setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weever82 Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rnlinebacker said: did you try the plunk test with your ammo in the RO? 147s are usually longer and need to go shorter. Or, it could need more crimp too Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Yes I did. well, not all of them but a bunch when I was reloading. But they all worked in my friends Range Officer that is 100% stock still.. I also case gauge every round when I load. Edited April 24, 2019 by Weever82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken6PPC Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I have a stainless RO in 9mm, and the chamber IS tight. You could have your chamber reamed, or you could simply adjust your dies to suit your RO's chamber. Either too much or too little crimp could cause your issues, as well as not sizing all the way down. "Plunk and spin" check your reloads to check function before going to the match! I adjusted my extractor's tension, and relieved the bottom edge of the extractor to allow rounds to slide up under it more easily. I also fit an oversized slide stop to keep my extractor from "clocking". You can research each of these topics, and find a wealth of information on them. Welcome to the wonderful world of 1911's! LOL! The good part is, once you have it all worked out, you will likely have many thousand rounds of trouble-free, accurate shooting to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken6PPC Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Weever82 said: Yes I did. well, not all of them but a bunch when I was reloading. But they all worked in my friends Range Officer that is 100% stock still.. Based on that, I'd say your extractor is either too loose or too tight. Take the slide off, insert a loaded round under the extractor, and shake lightly. If it falls out easily, the extractor is too loose. If it doesn't fall out at all, it is too tight. The other possibility is that you aren't sizing all the way to the base. Most rounds will chamber OK, but when you get to one that has been fired in a loose chamber, it will stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weever82 Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ken6PPC said: I have a stainless RO in 9mm, and the chamber IS tight. You could have your chamber reamed, or you could simply adjust your dies to suit your RO's chamber. Either too much or too little crimp could cause your issues, as well as not sizing all the way down. "Plunk and spin" check your reloads to check function before going to the match! I adjusted my extractor's tension, and relieved the bottom edge of the extractor to allow rounds to slide up under it more easily. I also fit an oversized slide stop to keep my extractor from "clocking". You can research each of these topics, and find a wealth of information on them. Welcome to the wonderful world of 1911's! LOL! The good part is, once you have it all worked out, you will likely have many thousand rounds of trouble-free, accurate shooting to come! Thanks for the response, Its just crazy to think that my barrel is that much different than my buddies... Guess I could crank the OAL down.. Will have to learn how to adjust extractor tension. lol Thanks Edited April 24, 2019 by Weever82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken6PPC Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Weever82 said: Thanks for the response, Its just crazy to think that my barrel is that much different than my buddies... Guess I could crank the OAL down.. Will have to learn how to adjust extractor tension. lol Thanks Extractor issues are the most common reasons why 1911's have feeding and extraction issues. Magazines are the second most common. Make sure to check that you are sizing as far down as you can towards the case head... Edited April 24, 2019 by Ken6PPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken6PPC Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Adjusting 1911 Extractor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Weever82 said: Thanks for the response, Its just crazy to think that my barrel is that much different than my buddies... Guess I could crank the OAL down.. Will have to learn how to adjust extractor tension. lol Thanks No two guns/barrels are a xactly the same. I would say if your gun runs factory or other ammo then you have an ammo issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weever82 Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 22 minutes ago, Ken6PPC said: Based on that, I'd say your extractor is either too loose or too tight. Take the slide off, insert a loaded round under the extractor, and shake lightly. If it falls out easily, the extractor is too loose. If it doesn't fall out at all, it is too tight. The other possibility is that you aren't sizing all the way to the base. Most rounds will chamber OK, but when you get to one that has been fired in a loose chamber, it will stick. I just did what you said and the bullet will not fall out. I can beat the slide super hard and it doesn't fall out... 13 minutes ago, Ken6PPC said: Adjusting 1911 Extractor Thanks for the reading material 11 minutes ago, Sarge said: No two guns/barrels are a xactly the same. I would say if your gun runs factory or other ammo then you have an ammo issue That's true. I did however shoot Speer Lawman 124. Out of the 3mags or so. It was having fail to eject issues and the magazine would not last round open. I am using the 2 factory magazines that came from Springfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postal Bob Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Sounds like your extractor is way too tight. It may occasionally work with factory rounds, depending on brand and rim edge thickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Weever82 said: I just did what you said and the bullet will not fall out. I can beat the slide super hard and it doesn't fall out... Thanks for the reading material That's true. I did however shoot Speer Lawman 124. Out of the 3mags or so. It was having fail to eject issues and the magazine would not last round open. I am using the 2 factory magazines that came from Springfield. Oh then that kind of rules out ammo. So if it’s brand spanking new maybe it just needs oiled generously, shot, cleaned, repeat and see if it gets better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weever82 Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sarge said: Oh then that kind of rules out ammo. So if it’s brand spanking new maybe it just needs oiled generously, shot, cleaned, repeat and see if it gets better? I was wondering that too.. However Frank Glenn Custom is local to me. I reached out to him, he said bring some of my reloads and $25. He will chamber/ream out the barrel for me. That will rule that part out. So if issues afterwards then its the extractor or mags? I am trying to be able to run my same reloads in all my USPSA guns. If that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 41 minutes ago, Postal Bob said: Sounds like your extractor is way too tight. It may occasionally work with factory rounds, depending on brand and rim edge thickness. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Weever82 said: I was wondering that too.. However Frank Glenn Custom is local to me. I reached out to him, he said bring some of my reloads and $25. He will chamber/ream out the barrel for me. That will rule that part out. So if issues afterwards then its the extractor or mags? I am trying to be able to run my same reloads in all my USPSA guns. If that makes sense. Oh yeah. If you have a gunsmith local then by all means let him iron it out in 30 minutes instead of guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Weever82 said: I was wondering that too.. However Frank Glenn Custom is local to me. I reached out to him, he said bring some of my reloads and $25. He will chamber/ream out the barrel for me. That will rule that part out. So if issues afterwards then its the extractor or mags? I am trying to be able to run my same reloads in all my USPSA guns. If that makes sense. Verify the ammo that doesn’t feed will plunk and spin. Drop it in the stripped barrel, see if it spins freely and then drops cleanly out when flipped over. If so, fix the extractor tension issue and stop overthinking this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve in Allentown PA Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Ken6PPC said: Adjusting 1911 Extractor Be advised, the information in that link is specifically for .45 extractors although the concepts are the same for any internal 1911 extractor except the AFTEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken6PPC Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Steve in Allentown PA said: Be advised, the information in that link is specifically for .45 extractors although the concepts are the same for any internal 1911 extractor except the AFTEC. For sure! I assumed anyone reading it would understand that the rim thicknesses etc. listed were for 45 ACP. Of course, we all know what "assume" means... LOL! I hope you don't mind me linking to that thread. It is the best source I know of for info on 1911 extractors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 You are in the world capital of USPSA shooting. I have lost count of the number of M/GMs that call AZ home. There are outstanding gunsmiths near you. E. Garcia, E Cameron M McLearn CZ custom Kodiak Precision Accuracy Speaks These are just a few. You can call SA and ask them. They have like four guys who are members of the Pistolsmith Guild. Message me if you want more info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weever82 Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Ken6PPC said: For sure! I assumed anyone reading it would understand that the rim thicknesses etc. listed were for 45 ACP. Of course, we all know what "assume" means... LOL! I hope you don't mind me linking to that thread. It is the best source I know of for info on 1911 extractors. no, I appreciated it. Read it and then went on an extractor rabbit hole for a few hours. wow... lol Edited April 25, 2019 by Weever82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitedgun Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 Aftec extractor and a few extra springs for a lifetime of trouble free service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 On 4/24/2019 at 9:21 PM, pjb45 said: You are in the world capital of USPSA shooting. I have lost count of the number of M/GMs that call AZ home. There are outstanding gunsmiths near you. E. Garcia, E Cameron M McLearn CZ custom Kodiak Precision Accuracy Speaks These are just a few. You can call SA and ask them. They have like four guys who are members of the Pistolsmith Guild. Message me if you want more info Matt McLearn is not in AZ any more. He moved to Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuvDog Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I’m not sure Ed Cameron is doing much business anymore. I’ve emailed, called and even resorted to FB to try and get a hold of him with no response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming the Merciless Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I'm impressed that nobody took the rimshot and asked "Why, is your Range Officer too chicken to trust your reloading skills?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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