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Either. There’s no noticeable difference between the two.

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I’m running the Springer Precision Tungsten. I also have the shooting sports innovation’s Tungsten grip module, The gun is 39oz with a romeo1. Supper flat shooting and I can barely feel the recoil

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Both have the same form, fit and function.  I would go with whichever you can get at a lower price.

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Thanks.

 

Springer is doing 10% off till the end of April, just placed my order there.

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8 hours ago, be032 said:

Thanks.

 

Springer is doing 10% off till the end of April, just placed my order there.

Is there a code for the discount? I'm looking at one also.

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13 hours ago, be032 said:

Thanks.

 

Springer is doing 10% off till the end of April, just placed my order there.

 

5 hours ago, LawDog324 said:

Is there a code for the discount? I'm looking at one also.

 

If you are talking about the tungsten recoil rods, they appear to be out of stock currently.

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8 hours ago, Doublehelix said:

 

 

If you are talking about the tungsten recoil rods, they appear to be out of stock currently.

Not at this point, thought I'd try the standard one in black, some grip tape, and mag bases maybe. 

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I picked up a GGI one, cuz it was black and matched my P320F and I got a free 15# spring to boot. If I want to change it up, I'll hit up Springer for different rate springs to suit my ammo/shooting style.

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On 4/8/2019 at 12:16 PM, Doublehelix said:

 

 

If you are talking about the tungsten recoil rods, they appear to be out of stock currently.

 

They are back in stock now, and I just ordered one (Springer Engineering).

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On 4/7/2019 at 9:05 PM, PewPewJohnson87 said:

I’m running the Springer Precision Tungsten. I also have the shooting sports innovation’s Tungsten grip module, The gun is 39oz with a romeo1. Supper flat shooting and I can barely feel the recoil

Which recoil spring are you running with it and what PF ammo?

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Hello: I just picked up a P320 X5 today for carry optics. It came with a GG guide rod and 1911 recoil spring. I tested the spring and it is 14.5lbs. I ran some ammo through my chrono and they were in the 133-135PF range. I tested 147gr and 135gr bullets. All ran 100%. I am going to test some ISMI 1911 recoil springs as soon as they get here from Shooters Connection. I will try the ISMI 14, 12.5 and 11lb springs and see how they work out. So far I don't see a need for a tungsten guide rod since my splits on paper are pretty good at 7-10 yards. Transitions are good also. Thanks, Eric

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4 hours ago, Aircooled6racer said:

Hello: I just picked up a P320 X5 today for carry optics. It came with a GG guide rod and 1911 recoil spring. I tested the spring and it is 14.5lbs. I ran some ammo through my chrono and they were in the 133-135PF range. I tested 147gr and 135gr bullets. All ran 100%. I am going to test some ISMI 1911 recoil springs as soon as they get here from Shooters Connection. I will try the ISMI 14, 12.5 and 11lb springs and see how they work out. So far I don't see a need for a tungsten guide rod since my splits on paper are pretty good at 7-10 yards. Transitions are good also. Thanks, Eric

 

I am very interested in your results as I just replaced my guide rod with the black springer guide rod and the ISMI 14 lbs. spring from shooter connection and I have the 12.5  lbs waiting to try. I don't have access to a chrono and as such it turns into just a feel thing for me. I am also curious as to which brand and weight ammo you test, if you're not reloading

 

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Hello: I was using some reloads and also some 135grain Freedom Munitions I had laying around. I am also going to try some 115, 121, and 124's as well to see what I like best. I use hits on paper and a timer to see what is best since my mind can play tricks on what I think is best. Thanks, Eric

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On 4/15/2019 at 1:18 PM, mellino19 said:

Which recoil spring are you running with it and what PF ammo?

 

147 Black Bullets

CCI small rifle primers

3.0g TiteGroup 

1.140 COL

130PF @2018 Nationals 

14lb ISMI guide rod spring 

 

very soft shooting with my X5 weighing in at 39oz

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6 hours ago, PewPewJohnson87 said:

147 Black Bullets

CCI small rifle primers

3.0g TiteGroup 

1.140 COL

130PF @2018 Nationals 

14lb ISMI guide rod spring 

 

With that combination, do you find the sights get back down on target quickly enough? As quickly as a 124gr load at that PF would?

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Shooting CO the dot stays on target very well, Keep in mind my gun is 39oz with the Tungsten grip & guide rod. I have never tried 124’s as the 147’s were used in my 226 Legion SAO that I started shooting USPSA with. When I made the switch to the X5 I dialed the powder back from 3.4g to 3.0g. It felt great for me and were very accurate and it only got better with the added Tungsten.  FYI I tested the velocities of a few 147 coated bullets (SNS, Black Bullet, Galant, and Blue bullets) the Galant’s and Blues’s were about 6 feet per second slower over the chrono then BB & SNS, BB & SNS were about dead even. 

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Don't mean to hijack the thread, but I currently have a stock X-Five with a Romeo1 6moa. I plan on installing a GGI Competition Trigger and am thinking about upgrading to either a GGI Fat Guide Rod or the SP. I'm currently shooting 115gr UMC or Blazer. What Spring Weight would you all recommend for that application?

 

Thanks!

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1 hour ago, mich3210 said:

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but I currently have a stock X-Five with a Romeo1 6moa. I plan on installing a GGI Competition Trigger and am thinking about upgrading to either a GGI Fat Guide Rod or the SP. I'm currently shooting 115gr UMC or Blazer. What Spring Weight would you all recommend for that application?

 

Thanks!

12-14 lbs

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5 hours ago, jcc7x7 said:

12-14 lbs

This! I have tried 14,12, and 11. They all grouped the same with 147’s and 3.0g of TG. I left the 14 in the gun

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7 hours ago, mich3210 said:

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but I currently have a stock X-Five with a Romeo1 6moa. I plan on installing a GGI Competition Trigger and am thinking about upgrading to either a GGI Fat Guide Rod or the SP. I'm currently shooting 115gr UMC or Blazer. What Spring Weight would you all recommend for that application?

 

The key driver here is the power factor of the cartridge. My 130 PF 125gr loads like the 14# spring. To tell for sure, check your brass ejection distance. My stock spring ejected that load almost straight up. The 14# spring throws brass 6 - 8 feet.

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I tried a 14 and went back to an 11. I liked the way  the dot tracked better. Try them, & see what you like, recoil springs are cheap. 

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Hello: Unless you actually test your springs you don't know what you actually have. Saying a Wolff 14 spring is the same as a ISMI or Sprinco spring maybe not always true. I also check them after 500 rounds and also when I think to change them out. Thanks, Eric

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Best thing to do for springs is to get a calibration kit from Wolff and try each one to tune the gun to your load. I bought the Reduced Power Kit that does 11 to 15 lbs from them and now that I'm adjusting my load from 3.2 tg to 3.0 tg w/147 extremes and installed a tungsten guide rod, I'll be tuning it all over again with that kit.

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