phique2000 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) I am looking to move into the carry optics division in IDPA. I will be installing a Galloway optic mount plate on my Ruger SR-9 & I'm looking for red dot suggestions. Nothing that will break the bank as I am just a casual shooter. Mainly looking for a decent sight that won't get torn apart by the shock of slide movement. Thanks in advance, Edited March 29, 2019 by phique2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShooter Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 The Vortex Venom is good, popular, reasonably priced and has a lifetime warranty. Leupold Delta Point Pro is very good but a bit more costly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravisB_02 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Just made the switch myself. Went with vortex viper. Appeared to sit lower than the venom and maybe a taller window by looking on google. Its definately narrower though but hasnt bothered me at all. 6moa. Besides u cant beat $180 shipped on amazon. Ive seen them for 200 in the classifieds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phique2000 Posted March 30, 2019 Author Share Posted March 30, 2019 Thanks guys, I'll definitely take a look at the Vortex sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Lifetime warranty, but it gets used often. I've had a Viper and a Venom, both had to go back for repair/replacement. Their Razor appears to be a cut above both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg5322 Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Until someone figures out a way to get a Holosun 510c on a slide, Leupold Delta Point Pro wins simply for the biggest window and brightest dot. Got a DPP on a M&P C.O.R.E. and another on a milled G17 slide. Both work great, and the big window is a huge deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityShooter Posted March 31, 2019 Share Posted March 31, 2019 The Galloway plate will not accept the Leupold DeltaPoint Pro. It does fit the Vortex Venom, Burris Fast Fire and some others. I recommend the Venom based on my good experience with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawDog324 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Vortex Venom or Viper, Both are in the $200 range and lifetime no questions ask warranty. The Venom is a top load battery, while the Viper will require you taking it off to change. The Venom also has a auto brightness setting and is designed to co-witness on many pistols. I would agree on getting the 6 MOA on what ever you choose as you can picket up much faster. DK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef15 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 They all die eventually, get one with a good warranty, two would be better. Having to remove to replace batteries is pretty lame, they don't really give warning. The Viper is a sleek little unit. But the battery is under it, and it gets awful glare from a low sun or similar light angles. 1st died at 3k, second has only just passed that mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phique2000 Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 Thanks to all for your replies. I think I'm pretty much settled on the Venom. I'm new to red dots, so forgive my lack of knowledge. I know MOA is minute of angle, & 3 MOA means the dot will cover 3" at 100 yards, & 6 MOA 6". I see a number of people recommend the 6 for a handgun. Can you explain why the 3 wouldn't give a more precise aiming dot? Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuvDog Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) The 6 MOA dot is easier to pick up faster. So for USPSA, and running around, it's about picking up the dot and aiming faster. it's still small enough for that. The 3MOA will give you a more precise aiming point, but for some sports/events/activities, it's not necessary to be that precise. Edited April 4, 2019 by LuvDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa-XD45 Posted April 4, 2019 Share Posted April 4, 2019 I would check out the Holosun 507C. 32 MOA circle and/or 2 MOA dot. Three different reticle combinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phique2000 Posted April 4, 2019 Author Share Posted April 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, Tampa-XD45 said: I would check out the Holosun 507C. 32 MOA circle and/or 2 MOA dot. Three different reticle combinations. Thanks, Tampa, but the Holosun won't work with the Galloway plate. LuvDog, Thanks for the education. I'll be using it in the Carry Optics division in IDPA, so I guess 6MOA is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawDog324 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 12 hours ago, phique2000 said: Thanks to all for your replies. I think I'm pretty much settled on the Venom. I'm new to red dots, so forgive my lack of knowledge. I know MOA is minute of angle, & 3 MOA means the dot will cover 3" at 100 yards, & 6 MOA 6". I see a number of people recommend the 6 for a handgun. Can you explain why the 3 wouldn't give a more precise aiming dot? Thanks again Ditto what LuvDog said, in IDPA most of your shoots will be at pretty close yardage and being able to pick up the dot faster will help your scoring. I was thinking the same as you leaning towards a 3 MOA for more precise aiming, but I ended up going with the 6. I would bet that if you have a 50 yard shoot in a match it will be rare and then your dot is only covering 3 inches. Good Luck and Happy Shooting DK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mveto Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I really like the Vortex Venom 6 MOA dot, I have it on my PCC and soon on the carry optics SP-01 I’m building, midway had them on sale last I looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Vortex dots aren’t as bright. The 2.5 deltapoint pro and the 2 in my Pcc’s Holosun 510C are just as easy to track as a 6 MOA Vortex because they flare like the sun. In Vortex, definitely go with the larger dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpipe9 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Does anyone here know if a holosun 510c will fit on a Cz P10f OR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Broke my viper after less than 500 rounds last night. Match tomorrow so I'm borrowing a DPP and have a 507c on the way, but it won't arrive until tomorrow afternoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 On 3/30/2019 at 8:17 AM, OPENB said: Lifetime warranty, but it gets used often. I've had a Viper and a Venom, both had to go back for repair/replacement. Their Razor appears to be a cut above both. I just put a Venom on a Ruger Mark IV Lite. I think it will hold up for that application. For slide ride beatings, I think RMR is as tough as they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superpipe9 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 4 hours ago, waktasz said: Broke my viper after less than 500 rounds last night. Match tomorrow so I'm borrowing a DPP and have a 507c on the way, but it won't arrive until tomorrow afternoon The 507c looks pretty good although a little small. Let us know what you think about it compared to the DPP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 I'm running Venoms on my competition handguns and absolutely love them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mont1120 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Went from the Vortex Venom to the 7.5 triangle dot on the DDP. After getting used to the triangle, I pick it up faster, can see it in harsh bright sunlight much easier. and use the tip of the triangle for those pesky long range targets. Too bad it will not fit on your mount. The Venom went through an entire season for me with no issues, I just want the larger acquisition dot/triangle after losing the dot in the light and a very light background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novagunner Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I run a venom on my G34. Have had really good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jklt222 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I run the Vortex Razor on both major and minor 9mm open builds by Limcat and love them. Switched from the RTS2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 On 4/5/2019 at 7:13 PM, Superpipe9 said: The 507c looks pretty good although a little small. Let us know what you think about it compared to the DPP 507c arrived and I like it. I think I will end up liking the circle crosshair and dot combo. Turns out the DPP I borrowed was just a regular Deltapoint, not a Pro. I am not a big fan of the triangle, but shooting it for the first time in a match was probably not ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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