CzViper Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Does anybody shoot 45 acp for limited division or is 40 S&W pretty much what everybody uses? Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 No sane person builds a gun in 45 to shoot limited, if that is what you are wondering. But there is a local guy and i have seen a couple others that use a 45 in limited cause that is what they have. It can work and i would actually use it over 9 given the option, but it is not optimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Does anybody shoot 45 acp for limited division or is 40 S&W pretty much what everybody uses? Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk yea it's dead.you just can't get to the same capacity as 40 with 140mm magsSent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solvability Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I started in Limited with a Glock 21 and once I figured how much I liked it I got a Glock 35 and never looked back - the capacity is the real issue here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CzViper Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 Yes, I'm just getting into USPSA and I'm looking at a custom build. From reading I'm sticking with major for the scoring. Using 140mm mags it's 16 for 45 acp and 20 for 40 S&W. From what I understand once you get that low in the mag there would be a reload anyhow. So is there a need for the extra rounds in stages that anyone has experienced? Or is it more the recoil that people use 40 S&W?Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfish Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Yes, I'm just getting into USPSA and I'm looking at a custom build. From reading I'm sticking with major for the scoring. Using 140mm mags it's 16 for 45 acp and 20 for 40 S&W. From what I understand once you get that low in the mag there would be a reload anyhow. So is there a need for the extra rounds in stages that anyone has experienced? Or is it more the recoil that people use 40 S&W?Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalkin my experience, 45 shot softer than 40(handloads) BUT absolutely yes better to have the 20 rounds. unless you can guarantee yourself you can go one for one on all your targets. No, it's never good yo go to emptySent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lppd4 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Was it ever alive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, lppd4 said: Was it ever alive? 1995 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, CzViper said: Yes, I'm just getting into USPSA and I'm looking at a custom build. From reading I'm sticking with major for the scoring. Using 140mm mags it's 16 for 45 acp and 20 for 40 S&W. From what I understand once you get that low in the mag there would be a reload anyhow. So is there a need for the extra rounds in stages that anyone has experienced? Or is it more the recoil that people use 40 S&W? Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk If you are getting a limited gun built, what reason would you have to shoot a 45? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 When was it ever alive ? I think at one time single stack mags didnt have to meet the 140 rule,, So maybe 45 limited would be fine in 10 round only states,,, But other than that youd be a one legged man at an ass kicking contest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOISCOID Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 53 minutes ago, Joe4d said: When was it ever alive ? I think at one time single stack mags didnt have to meet the 140 rule,, So maybe 45 limited would be fine in 10 round only states,,, But other than that youd be a one legged man at an ass kicking contest Appendix D2 section 8 states: "Maximum magazine Length - 5.561"(141.25mm) or 6.742"(171.25mm) in single stack guns." The rule still exists but I don't think you get any extra capacity with the 170mm SS mags in 45 (or any round for that matter) only increased reliability and cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CzViper Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share Posted March 9, 2019 If you are getting a limited gun built, what reason would you have to shoot a 45?Don't mind the 45 recoil if I'm making major and I can get a great deal on a custom 45 right now.Getting some opinions if it's worth it to save some cash and time if recoil isn't the issue. Seems like the extra rounds is what really play a part. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebg3 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 I remember some were getting 18 + 1 shooting Para's in .45. Bullet cost would be the biggest negative in my opinion. Extra capacity with .40 is nice but you can still be competitive using a ,45 in Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 6 hours ago, CzViper said: Don't mind the 45 recoil if I'm making major and I can get a great deal on a custom 45 right now. Getting some opinions if it's worth it to save some cash and time if recoil isn't the issue. Seems like the extra rounds is what really play a part. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Recoil is a non factor either way, but overtime the 45 will cost you more in components. Also you might not think it, but giving up the 4 rounds is a huge issue. If you get the 45 you will wish you had waited an got a 40. There is a reason that there is a great deal on a 45 limited gun, it is cause in limited 45 basically sucks. With the exception of single stack, every division has a dominate caliber, there is a reason why that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJinPA Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Yes, I'm just getting into USPSA and I'm looking at a custom build. From reading I'm sticking with major for the scoring. Using 140mm mags it's 16 for 45 acp and 20 for 40 S&W. From what I understand once you get that low in the mag there would be a reload anyhow. So is there a need for the extra rounds in stages that anyone has experienced? Or is it more the recoil that people use 40 S&W?Sent from my SM-N950U using TapatalkAs others have said the only reason would be that you’re just starting and only have a gun in 45. More bullets is always better in this game. I recently switched to limited from production (shooting a a 2011 in 40) and can’t think of a match that had a stage where I didn’t plan on going 18 or 20 before a reload. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 7 hours ago, CzViper said: if it's worth it to save some cash and time if recoil isn't the issue. Seems like the extra rounds is what really play a part. To save $500 and shoot 16 round mags against your competition with 20 rounds/mag, you are at a disadvantage. For $500. If you're just fooling around and shooting local matches for recreation 1-2 times/month, and taking the winter off, it might be worth it to you. But, if you're shooting more often, and you're serious about moving as high in the rankings as YOU can, or shooting major events, you are saving pennies compared to the total cost of your annual shooting budget. Many stages are 8-round friendly - so you start out with 17 rounds in the gun, and you cannot have ANY extra shots, or you are going to have at least the next, if not all the next, standing reloads. Everyone else can take three (3) extra shots/position and keep going. That's a big disadvantage. Depends on how big $500 is to you. ( Plus, reloading the .40 is cheaper than reloading .45 - so you'll save $300 -400 / year in reloading the .40). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimBoettcher Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 20 hours ago, lppd4 said: Was it ever alive? It was what this game was built on.... until the gamers ruined it... Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg5322 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Does anybody shoot 45 acp for anything? FIFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Does anybody shoot 45 acp for anything? FIFY single stack majorSent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg5322 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Rnlinebacker said: single stack major Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk You wouldn't know it where I shoot (Richmond CA), .45 brass is as rare as .38 Super. Brass picked up is like 60% 9mm, 39% .40 S&W and 1% split between .45 & .38 Super. Maybe the guy shooting .45 picks up most of his brass and the guy shooting .38 Super picks up most of his, who knows. You don't find it on the ground though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJinPA Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 You wouldn't know it where I shoot (Richmond CA), .45 brass is as rare as .38 Super. Brass picked up is like 60% 9mm, 39% .40 S&W and 1% split between .45 & .38 Super. Maybe the guy shooting .45 picks up most of his brass and the guy shooting .38 Super picks up most of his, who knows. You don't find it on the ground though.I think many of the few that still shoot single stack are shooting minor (9 or 40). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertg5322 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, MJinPA said: I think many of the few that still shoot single stack are shooting minor (9 or 40). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk As hard as it is to get a .40 S&W 1911 here in California, there are more than a few at any match I go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJinPA Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 As hard as it is to get a .40 S&W 1911 here in California, there are more than a few at any match I go to. Ah! I’m in PA and sometimes forget how F’d up CA laws are. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasref Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Truth is 45 is just about dead everywhere. I'll shoot it some in Single stack, but as arthritis gets the better of me 9mm sees the most action these days. As to the OP question, YES. 45acp is dead in limited. Really for serious competitors, all things being equal, there's no reason not to shoot 40 in Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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