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Hey 1050er's,

 

Ran into an issue where some 9mm cases made thru to the primer station and caused a few untended "boom" issues.  Trying to find a more fool proof way to removing the spent primers from 9mm cases. 

 

I have Mighty Armory decaping die and was thinking about installing this in station 2 (rezine/decap station) and then taking the decapping rod out of my resizing die and installing it in the swager station to both resize and act as a backer die for 9mm cases.

 

Not sure if this setup will be any more foolproof in removing spent primers, but wondered if any one else has tried something similar and had good or poor success or thought it made any sort of difference in their reloading.

 

Thanks...

Chris 

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 When I process my brass that’s sort of what my set up is my first station is the mighty armory the second station sizing die with the de-capping  then I go to the priming station and then my last is my expansion station this is what I do when I process and prime.

 

 

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You probably got some pull backed primers, or ringers, which caused the kaboom.  IMHO,  The only real fool proof way to avoid this is to process your brass first. Or buy processed brass, or have someone process it for you.

 

I load/process on an AmmoBot driven 1050, both 9mm and 45ACP.  

 

Process: 

Station 2: Lee universal decapping die with AB Berdan sensor. Lee pin ground to 45* and vacuum to pull primers off (these two things alone may help you a lot).

Station 3: The Judge sensor, with Primer Pocket Probe.  The Judge catches all sorts of bad stuff and tall cases, the probe catches primer pull backs, ringers, etc.

Station 6: Dillon size die minus pin

Station 8: EGW-U die minus pin

 

Load:

Station 2: Dillon sizing/decap die, just in case a non-processed piece of brass sneaks by.

Station 3: Lyman Die in place of expander.

Station 4. EGA primer hold-down die

Station 5: powder drop with MBF PTX

Station 6: MBF bullet drop

Station 7: Dillon seat die

Station 8: Dillon taper crimp die.

 

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I've heard of people sanding the tip of the decapper pin very slightly to give it more of a point rather than a dome, but have not tried myself. Had primer pull-back only a couple of times through 5k 9mm on my 1050. Pretty new to it though. 

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22 hours ago, GregJ said:

You probably got some pull backed primers, or ringers, which caused the kaboom.  IMHO,  The only real fool proof way to avoid this is to process your brass first. Or buy processed brass, or have someone process it for you. 

 

I load/process on an AmmoBot driven 1050, both 9mm and 45ACP.  

 

Process: 

Station 2: Lee universal decapping die with AB Berdan sensor. Lee pin ground to 45* and vacuum to pull primers off (these two things alone may help you a lot). 

Station 3: The Judge sensor, with Primer Pocket Probe.  The Judge catches all sorts of bad stuff and tall cases, the probe catches primer pull backs, ringers, etc.

Station 6: Dillon size die minus pin 

Station 8: EGW-U die minus pin

 

Load:

Station 2: Dillon sizing/decap die, just in case a non-processed piece of brass sneaks by.

Station 3: Lyman Die in place of expander. 

Station 4. EGA primer hold-down die 

Station 5: powder drop with MBF PTX

Station 6: MBF bullet drop

Station 7: Dillon seat die

Station 8: Dillon taper crimp die.

 

Very nice setup.. thanks for the info..

I have found even the MA decapping die can let some stubborn primed cases by.  Had several that the MA decapper just punched a hold thru and the primer stayed.  With the resizer in station 3 and using the dillion swager, its very easy to feel when a primer has not been ejected.  Just need to slow things down and bit and pay more attention.

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 When I process my brass that’s sort of what my set up is my first station is the mighty armory the second station sizing die with the de-capping  then I go to the priming station and then my last is my expansion station this is what I do when I process and prime.
 
 
The MA die is yuuuge!

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On 2/20/2019 at 10:00 AM, Chris777 said:

Very nice setup.. thanks for the info..

I have found even the MA decapping die can let some stubborn primed cases by.  Had several that the MA decapper just punched a hold thru and the primer stayed.  With the resizer in station 3 and using the dillion swager, its very easy to feel when a primer has not been ejected.  Just need to slow things down and bit and pay more attention.

 

If a pin gets thru a primer it means the primers are deteriorating. This is generally due to moisture. Dissimilar metals touching cause a galvanic corrosion which obviously weakens the integrity of the primer metal. Many of them end up with a punched out flat leaving the ring in the pocket. 

I’ve made a few changes to our pin design to help overcome some of the problems you guys run into. Including a high polishing to the enhanced pin design. 

No pullbacks reported to me in more than 2 months and no ringers.  We refer to the pin as our standard profile. Pics are on our website. 

 

Wayne

Mighty Armory 

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On 2/18/2019 at 12:08 PM, Chris777 said:

Hey 1050er's,

 

Ran into an issue where some 9mm cases made thru to the primer station and caused a few untended "boom" issues.  Trying to find a more fool proof way to removing the spent primers from 9mm cases. 

 

I have Mighty Armory decaping die and was thinking about installing this in station 2 (rezine/decap station) and then taking the decapping rod out of my resizing die and installing it in the swager station to both resize and act as a backer die for 9mm cases.

 

Not sure if this setup will be any more foolproof in removing spent primers, but wondered if any one else has tried something similar and had good or poor success or thought it made any sort of difference in their reloading.

 

Thanks...

Chris 

 

9mm can be a royal pita. Try our .057 pin.

Many of my customers are having great success with it on 9 and 40. Slow down to -1500 and your problem should be solved.

also check out our new Shorty Decapping and Backer Dies. They’re made specially for auto. 

 

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