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Y'all......

I have been given some Nosler 135gr and 150gr JHP and figured why not make some fun loads... the 135 for sure.
Treat it like my 9mm recipe? (147gr 3gr n320)?

Thoughts?

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No.  You need more powder in 40 than 9mm.  VV's starting load for both is 5.2gr N320.  As an example, my 40 weenie load is 3.6gr e3 under a 155 plated bullet for 126 PF.  e3 is significantly faster than N320, so I think you'll need 4gr N320 to start.

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Spent years with 40 exclusively.
My recipe was to buy same companies same profile 180's and 155's. 
Develop my major load with 180's,,   then do nothing else but swap bullets to 155 for minor.. Didnt change press, OAL, powder, powder charge.. Nothing.
You will end up with about a 140 pf load that works the same , wont throw off your timing, or require changing springs for function.
Done it with tightgroup, WST,  American Select, 

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WTS powder is great for minor loads, but I only shot 150gr smallest 3.8gr insanely low recoil

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It’s what I’m using for production with 165 BBIs and wst. Gun is a stock 2.

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2 hours ago, Joe4d said:

My recipe was to buy same companies same profile 180's and 155's. 
Develop my major load with 180's,,   then do nothing else but swap bullets to 155 for minor.. Didnt change press, OAL, powder, powder charge.. 

 

I originally used 180s for both major and minor.  Last year I went to Joe's approach and loved it.  Same POI to boot.  Red box major; green box minor to avoid confusion.

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yep, forgot that,, bullets hit same spot

 

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I’ve been having the same thoughts on loading to minor for steel and 3gun. Using the same setup an dropping to a 155 bullet sound great. How hoes the recoil seem. I shoot an edge loaded to major with 180 Blue Buttets and WST.

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When I was shooting both major and minor out of my CZ TS I loaded to 171 and 144PF.  Same 14 lb recoil spring handled both well.  I only shoot minor out of that gun now so I dropped to a 12 lb recoil spring for 126PF.  Recoil is soft.

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On 2/23/2019 at 10:09 AM, Jay1957 said:

I’ve been having the same thoughts on loading to minor for steel and 3gun. Using the same setup an dropping to a 155 bullet sound great. How hoes the recoil seem. I shoot an edge loaded to major with 180 Blue Buttets and WST.

 

Back off the wst by a grain and shoot the 180’s.  It’s awesome. I have some minor loaded you can try. 

 

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On 2/21/2019 at 6:49 AM, Joe4d said:

Spent years with 40 exclusively.
My recipe was to buy same companies same profile 180's and 155's. 
Develop my major load with 180's,,   then do nothing else but swap bullets to 155 for minor.. Didnt change press, OAL, powder, powder charge.. Nothing.
You will end up with about a 140 pf load that works the same , wont throw off your timing, or require changing springs for function.
Done it with tightgroup, WST,  American Select, 

I do exactly the same. My .40 minor loads are delightful to shoot and don’t even require recoil spring swap. I use N320, same charge weight as my major load and wind up with 132 PF minor loads. 

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I have been using 40 minor in production for a while now. Practice with 165s, use 200 for matches.  Of course with Blue Bullets.  With the 200s I get that "Are you sure you are making power factor"?🤣 640 fps = 128 PF

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1 hour ago, Silver_Surfer said:

I have been using 40 minor in production for a while now. Practice with 165s, use 200 for matches.  Of course with Blue Bullets.  With the 200s I get that "Are you sure you are making power factor"?🤣 640 fps = 128 PF

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3.0 of Clay’s and a 180 soft accurate fun to shoot out of my G35

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21 minutes ago, 427Cobra said:

3.0 of Clay’s and a 180 soft accurate fun to shoot out of my G35

Use to be my go to load until I ran out of Aussie clays. Nice soft load. 

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OMG! I ❤️ 200 gr 40 minor. Have a big bag of "Giggly Pews" (they make me giggle every time I shoot them)  200gr blue bullets over 3.1gr n320 via Glock 35. Barely cycles witha  13# spring but makes 135 PF and ridiculously low recoil.

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I never crono’ed them but a 180 blue at 4.2 WST felt pretty good. I tried 165s at 4.7 (my normal major with 180s) and they were a little snappy for my taste.

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this load is badass. I don’t really like minor with heavy bullets as the slide speed seems slow and sluggish to me. 140gr projectile. 3.8 gr of prima SV. 124 PF out of 5” infinity. Crazy soft, less recoil than 9mm.

11lb recoil spring. Tried a 7 and a 8 lb but the recoil was more harsh.

 

 

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On 3/30/2019 at 7:27 PM, cvincent said:

this load is badass. I don’t really like minor with heavy bullets as the slide speed seems slow and sluggish to me. 140gr projectile. 3.8 gr of prima SV. 124 PF out of 5” infinity. Crazy soft, less recoil than 9mm.

11lb recoil spring. Tried a 7 and a 8 lb but the recoil was more harsh.

 

 

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Thanks for the input.  I've been wanting to try a light bullet for 40 minor but I didn't know if it would feed since the round will be short over all length.  Since you are shooting it out of an SVI, I hope it will also feed out of my STI.

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Thanks for the input.  I've been wanting to try a light bullet for 40 minor but I didn't know if it would feed since the round will be short over all length.  Since you are shooting it out of an SVI, I hope it will also feed out of my STI.


I loaded these to 1.120” they fed fine also in my STI edge. I’m using the Acme coated 140s. And I think they may still be a little long for the bullet profile as they tend to stick slightly when ejecting the rounds by hand. Next time I’ll go deeper. I was kinda rushed when making these for a steel match.
My biggest problem is getting them to feed through the mr bulletfeeder. It takes some super fine tuning to get them to flip, and then they like to drop into the output tube sideways and jam the whole thing up.


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I settled on 155gr  JHP at 1.190 with 4.3gr of N320. 6" group at 25. 4.5 did the same as well. Needs an 11lb spring for sure.
 

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3.9 grains of Sport Pistol behind a blue bullet 165gr at 1.185 OAL runs great.  I needed to bump to 3.9 due to position sensitivity with powder. Yields a 135 PF.  If you give it the IDPA tilt it will average 840-850ish.

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Had to readjust my loads to make 125k.... Wow was way low.
Got over 5.0gr of N320 just to make minor on the 150gr JHP...... Holy!

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