Prange Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Gentlemen, Coming from 1911's, I'm used to 1-2" accuracy at 50 yards,(10 shot groups). Has anyone here tested a Shadow 2 at 50 yards? I'm itching to buy one,I just don't know how to spec it out. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varooom Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Haven't shot mine at 50 yards yet. 30 yards from a rest is the farthest I have tested so far. Once I adjusted the rear sight slightly one inch groups at POA were easy. I don't have any high end 1911s to compare to but the S2 shoots smaller groups (from a rest) than my Sig 226 Legion, Ruger SR1911, or my Kimber 1911 CDP. I don't think you will be disappointed. Varooom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckin_Thumper Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 yes, Like I always say, JMB made the perfect pistol, CZ just made it better MOA at 50 yards. I've also run my CM at 100.........best "I" can do is 12", but I am a caffeine addict Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonytheTiger Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, Truckin_Thumper said: MOA at 50 yards. .5" groups at 50? Thats a bit hard to believe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlKeese Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 I'd like to know where some of you guys get your measuring tapes from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 i shoot 2 inch groups at 10 yards and am extremely happy (I shoot fast though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 4 hours ago, Prange said: Coming from 1911's, I'm used to 1-2" accuracy at 50 yards,(10 shot groups). WOW ... That is incredible accuracy. Mind if I ask what is the gun ? What is the load ? What is the application ? and what is the ammo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckin_Thumper Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, TonytheTiger said: .5" groups at 50? Thats a bit hard to believe... Min. of Asshattery...... LOL. Gun can do it, I cant. Best I can do is 2-3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollyvol Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 I am just happy to hit the target at 50 yards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prange Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said: WOW ... That is incredible accuracy. Mind if I ask what is the gun ? What is the load ? What is the application ? and what is the ammo ? David Sams built 1911 9mm. Actually shoots a 10-shot group of 7/8"@50 yards. Atlanta Arms AMU match HP. It's for NRA Precision Pistol. His Beretta 92 is good for groups of 1-1/4"@50 yards. Same ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlKeese Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Prange said: David Sams built 1911 9mm. Actually shoots a 10-shot group of 7/8"@50 yards. Atlanta Arms AMU match HP. It's for NRA Precision Pistol. His Beretta 92 is good for groups of 1-1/4"@50 yards. Same ammo. "Coming from 1911's" That's not the average 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 17 hours ago, EarlKeese said: I'd like to know where some of you guys get your measuring tapes from. from Hobbits land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 17 hours ago, Prange said: David Sams built 1911 9mm. Actually shoots a 10-shot group of 7/8"@50 yards. Atlanta Arms AMU match HP. It's for NRA Precision Pistol. His Beretta 92 is good for groups of 1-1/4"@50 yards. Same ammo. What did the gun cost ? (That's a remarkable gun, BTW). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 I assume the 7/8ths 10 shot group is from a Ransom Rest ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 22 hours ago, EarlKeese said: I'd like to know where some of you guys get your measuring tapes from. Actually, I'm more interested in the ammo. It is interesting to think about, the rifle folks will tell you that longer barrels do not improve accuracy so you wonder what the real limit is for handguns which are not a special purpose design target pistol and which are shooting a common caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 (edited) I can almost hold the x ring with my shadow 2 at 50m. Off a bench and taking my time. 122 lead flat point bullets. Edited February 17, 2019 by dansedgli Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prange Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Hi-Power Jack said: What did the gun cost ? (That's a remarkable gun, BTW). A new one is around $3200-3500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prange Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Steve RA said: I assume the 7/8ths 10 shot group is from a Ransom Rest ?? Yep,from a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prange Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 1 hour ago, dansedgli said: I can almost hold the x ring with my shadow 2 at 50m. Off a bench and taking my time. 122 lead flat point bullets. That's a fine group from a bag. Irons or optic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dansedgli Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 Irons i think. I've had 2, one with an optic and they shoot about the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 May be wrong, but that looks more like a 4-5" group than a 1-2" group ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prange Posted February 18, 2019 Author Share Posted February 18, 2019 5 hours ago, Prange said: That's a fine group from a bag. Irons or optic? I can’t tell what target that is,but an NRA Rapid Fire target has a 10 ring of 3-1/4”. It’s pretty tough to get an accuracy baseline at 50 using irons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Freestyle at 50 with a Shadow 2 I am happy for ten rounds if five are A and five are C hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 1 hour ago, rowdyb said: Freestyle at 50 with a Shadow 2 I am happy for ten rounds if five are A and five are C hits. That would do me nicely too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Localizer Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 On 2/17/2019 at 2:01 PM, IHAVEGAS said: Actually, I'm more interested in the ammo. It is interesting to think about, the rifle folks will tell you that longer barrels do not improve accuracy so you wonder what the real limit is for handguns which are not a special purpose design target pistol and which are shooting a common caliber. Actually, longer barrels do improve accuracy...at distance. the reason? Wind resistance. For a given bullet (fixed BC), the faster you can drive the bullet, the more wind resistance you gain. This is dramatic as range starts increasing to 600yards and up. That’s why F-Class shooters & long range shooters run long barrels...for the velocity. a 32” .308 (typical Palma or F-class barrel length) vs a 16” .308 is a difference of about 300ft/s. Ay 1,000yds, that’s about 10-12inches of wind resistance gain....and since wind is constantly varying, your practical accuracy is severely handicapped with a short barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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