Fasthenk65 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Dear all, Finally we can buy CGW parts in Europe and in my case the Netherlands. (Mulekom Schietsport). My Shadow 2 got the biggest CGW treatment pack + RRK. My double action went to exactly 6lbs. More important, it is super smooth now! Finally all DA shots are alpha's. SA went to 2lbs exactly. Reset is extremely short (bit soft though with the soft TRS from CGW). Pre-travel in DA is still there but ok. Pre-travel in SA is close to zero. Have to adjust to that... bit afraid of DQ caused by early discharge... Training will help. Apart from grams/lbs trigger pull: trigger is now like a 1911. Breaking is like glass. I like some more pre-travel and hope it is possible with the ' new' 85c trigger... (have to ask CGW..). Very, very happy!!! Tnx CGW for making this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 You can’t adjust the sa pre travel with a screw. It’s set by the disconnector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoRivera Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Yes, pre-travel can be increased by removing material from the area on the disconnector indicated in the image below as 'A'...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 Tnx, better have a gunsmith doing it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 It’s not hard. Just go really slow. And ensure you fit both sides of the safety back on before you test the trigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirppa Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/10/2019 at 9:01 PM, Fasthenk65 said: Dear all, Finally we can buy CGW parts in Europe and in my case the Netherlands. (Mulekom Schietsport). My Shadow 2 got the biggest CGW treatment pack + RRK. My double action went to exactly 6lbs. More important, it is super smooth now! Finally all DA shots are alpha's. SA went to 2lbs exactly. Reset is extremely short (bit soft though with the soft TRS from CGW). Pre-travel in DA is still there but ok. Pre-travel in SA is close to zero. Have to adjust to that... bit afraid of DQ caused by early discharge... Training will help. Apart from grams/lbs trigger pull: trigger is now like a 1911. Breaking is like glass. I like some more pre-travel and hope it is possible with the ' new' 85c trigger... (have to ask CGW..). Very, very happy!!! Tnx CGW for making this stuff. Any other stores that sell CGW stuff? I didn't find a website for the Mulekom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted February 14, 2019 Author Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 2/13/2019 at 9:44 AM, Tirppa said: Any other stores that sell CGW stuff? I didn't find a website for the Mulekom. https://www.vanmulekom.com/shop2017/ caesar-shop.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guido21 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) Hello Fasthenk65 Can you tell what parts you installed? Cajun Gun Works Shadow S-2 Kit 75800 with included 1486-T3 disconnector or Cajun Gun Works T5 Shadow 2 Disconnector 1488 Thanks. Regards Guido PS: I waited long time for CGW parts in Europe ............ Now finally it's possible! Edited February 22, 2019 by guido21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 1:19 PM, guido21 said: Hello Fasthenk65 Can you tell what parts you installed? Cajun Gun Works Shadow S-2 Kit 75800 with included 1486-T3 disconnector or Cajun Gun Works T5 Shadow 2 Disconnector 1488 Thanks. Regards Guido PS: I waited long time for CGW parts in Europe ............ Now finally it's possible! the 75800 S2 kit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhuk Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 CGW stuff is also available in Australia from Edge Firearms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdf3 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Is it possible to use it in IPSC Production? It seems like safety won't work like expected so it won't be allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Is it possible to use it in IPSC Production? It seems like safety won't work like expected so it won't be allowedWhy do you think the safety won’t work?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdf3 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Matt1 said: Why do you think the safety won’t work? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Safeties must work in DA, SA and the one in the middle (half cock). I've seen it doesn't work in half cock and that is not allowed in IPSC (maybe it is in USPSA) Edited June 25, 2019 by xdf3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludde Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, xdf3 said: Safeties must work in DA, SA and the one in the middle (half cock). I've seen it doesn't work in half cock and that is not allowed in IPSC (maybe it is in USPSA) The safety is not possible to apply when the hammer is not cocked on an unmodified CZ! The Tanfoglios are different in that aspect. This is based on several stock CZs that I own and it is also stated in the CZ armourers manual. Depending on how you fit the sear/safety you will get your desired function. Edited June 25, 2019 by Ludde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 13 hours ago, xdf3 said: Is it possible to use it in IPSC Production? It seems like safety won't work like expected so it won't be allowed Isn’t there a list of approved firearms. Seems like a lot of ipsc guys use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 https://www.ipsc.org/rules/proddiv.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 The disco doesn’t effect the function of the safety Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMP Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 With a CGW race hammer, it is possible to activate the safety with the hammer down, and it will function, but not recommended as it may cause damage if the trigger is pulled hard enough. This is the biggest difference. So, if the hammer is not IPSC legal (and I'm not sure about this), no need to worry about the safety then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdf3 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Nathanb said: Isn’t there a list of approved firearms. Seems like a lot of ipsc guys use them. Of course it's approved. I was talking about a Cajunized Shadow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdf3 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 3 hours ago, GMP said: With a CGW race hammer, it is possible to activate the safety with the hammer down, and it will function, but not recommended as it may cause damage if the trigger is pulled hard enough. This is the biggest difference. So, if the hammer is not IPSC legal (and I'm not sure about this), no need to worry about the safety then. Maybe that's the difference. So the fact is : a Cajunized Shadow2 (with the full kit) is IPSC PRODUCTION legal, right? The hammer can be changed as far as I know, anything except the barrel (and maybe the bushing?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludde Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) The latest IPSC Production division rules allow for any trigger mechanism modification. Springs, hammers, disco, firing pin, trigger and so on! If you want the CGW stuff go ahead! Edited June 26, 2019 by Ludde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdf3 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Ludde said: The latest IPSC Production division rules allow for any trigger mechanism modification. Springs, hammers, disco, firing pin, trigger and so on! If you want the CGW stuff go ahead! Yes, they do, but if that implicitly changes how the gun works, that won't be allowed. That's what I meant. I had a discussion about safeties with a range master. He doesn't know what CGW kit does, but if safeties won't work the same way, the kit won't be allowed. That's why I asked that. So, if everything works the same, it's all good. I guess they won't even check the safety in DA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMP Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 For USPSA production with an S2 the function change is irrelevant as you start hammer down anyway. Its certainly not less safe. I can tell you that if you bump it on during a draw it will screw up your stage, ask me how I know. Here they never checked and why would they? I have all the CGW parts including RRK and bushing and it was never questioned. If the IPSC rules are the same then your good, that's the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludde Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 6 hours ago, xdf3 said: Yes, they do, but if that implicitly changes how the gun works, that won't be allowed. That's what I meant. I had a discussion about safeties with a range master. He doesn't know what CGW kit does, but if safeties won't work the same way, the kit won't be allowed. That's why I asked that. So, if everything works the same, it's all good. I guess they won't even check the safety in DA My personal opinion is that it does not matter as long as it is safe. Meaning that it is possible to put the safety on when the hammer is fully cocked (SA) as intended in the original CZ design. If then somebody has fitted original CZ or aftermarket parts that allows you to also put the safety on when fully de-cocked (DA) does not make it less safe and you have not removed any of the safety functions. For example the Tanfoglio line of pistols works this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Using a CGW hammer or disco in a Shadow 2 DOES NOT change the function of the safety.However, CGW hammers & disco’s being IPSC Production legal is a more complex question that has not been clearly defined as yet. IMO they are legal but you could be in trouble if you come across a BOC Range Master at a match.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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