Adrenaline Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 My local sportsman warehouse can't get their s#!t together and get primers in stock I use Federal small pistol primers says gold medal match on the box.. I like these because I run a lightened striker and the cups are soft. What would the closest substitution be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 gave up on local 20 years ago,,, just do a bulk order from powder valley and save some money. They have ur primers in stock for $33 perk,, and u can get about 30k on one hazmat fee.. U can also combine powder and primers in one 70lb shipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowenbuilt Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Winchester SPP is the next softest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevrofreak Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 56 minutes ago, Adrenaline said: My local sportsman warehouse can't get their s#!t together and get primers in stock I use Federal small pistol primers says gold medal match on the box.. I like these because I run a lightened striker and the cups are soft. What would the closest substitution be? Be careful running a soft primer like Federal in 9major; they can be pierced far more easily under the high pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 Will glock ignite Winchester spp with 4.5 striker spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef15 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Adrenaline said: Will glock ignite Winchester spp with 4.5 striker spring One of mine will. One of mine won't reliably, but from reading this one is an anomaly, extended striker would surely fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdinIII Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Will glock ignite Winchester spp with 4.5 striker spring Almost always with a factory striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline Posted February 3, 2019 Author Share Posted February 3, 2019 Almost always with a factory spring..not good enough. Fed cups go off 100% time with 4.5 lb spring. I need primers today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Try Cabela's, Bass Pro, Sportsman Warehouse, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) Locally we carry a s#!t ton of Winchester small pistol primers will those work with a 4 and 1/2 lb Striker spring on a Glock 9mm major Edited February 4, 2019 by Adrenaline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 Ok so as a test I fired shell casing with a Winchester wsp primer and it looks like the same striker I get with Federal. Are there win wsp primers OK to use for 9mm major...dont know why they wouldn't as long as they ignite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 Anyone use winchester small pistol primere with a lightened firing pin/striker spring reliably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 Guess I'll be testing them in practice tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&W686 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Powder Valley has quite a few available right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 There is a test on primer softness, can't seem to find it right now.. Win came in second to federal.. Graf and sons seems to have the best Deal on them with hazmat and shipping.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 Update. Heres some pics of winchester wsp primere vs federal spp. Not much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 Federal top win bottom.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olstyn Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 On 2/3/2019 at 3:53 PM, Joe4d said: gave up on local 20 years ago,,, just do a bulk order from powder valley and save some money. They have ur primers in stock for $33 perk,, and u can get about 30k on one hazmat fee.. U can also combine powder and primers in one 70lb shipment. Some states and cities impose restrictions on how many primers you can store in a residence, so be aware of that before placing an order of that size. Unless things have changed since I last checked, if I placed an order for that many primers at once, I'd be in violation of state law here in MN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, olstyn said: Some states and cities impose restrictions on how many primers you can store in a residence, so be aware of that before placing an order of that size. Unless things have changed since I last checked, if I placed an order for that many primers at once, I'd be in violation of state law here in MN. That’s why you don’t talk about such things. Most of us have more than a few hundred primers and a pound or two of powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevrofreak Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Adrenaline said: Update. Heres some pics of winchester wsp primere vs federal spp. Not much difference. Top left is showing signs of flattening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olstyn Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Sarge said: That’s why you don’t talk about such things. Most of us have more than a few hundred primers and a pound or two of powder. Just wanted the person who was asking for advice to know that it's important to be aware of that stuff. I have several thousand primers and a decent amount of powder myself, but I'm careful to stay under the legal limit for my state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 53 minutes ago, chevrofreak said: Top left is showing signs of flattening Thanks. That's okay though, that was my 178 pf load, was testing it. Not too concerned since 173 and 174 pf is a bit softer and flatter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 11 hours ago, olstyn said: Some states and cities impose restrictions on how many primers you can store in a residence, so be aware of that before placing an order of that size. Unless things have changed since I last checked, if I placed an order for that many primers at once, I'd be in violation of state law here in MN. never once had the state/city kick my door in and want to count primers. Was surprised to see this really is a law in MN,, nomore than 10k in a residence.... but seems you could store less than 1,000,000 but more than 10 k in a detached outbuilding if you have a barn or shop. Also wierd can have as much live ammo as you like,,, so load it fast. But either way, around me, 2k primers is the break even point WITH hazmat fee. As there is about a $10 per k markup. So I would STILL order 10k at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olstyn Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 15 hours ago, Joe4d said: never once had the state/city kick my door in and want to count primers. Was surprised to see this really is a law in MN,, nomore than 10k in a residence.... but seems you could store less than 1,000,000 but more than 10 k in a detached outbuilding if you have a barn or shop. Also wierd can have as much live ammo as you like,,, so load it fast. But either way, around me, 2k primers is the break even point WITH hazmat fee. As there is about a $10 per k markup. So I would STILL order 10k at a time. Likelihood of getting caught above the limit is pretty low, yes, but a 10K limit also isn't too horrible of a hardship. At least they didn't make it 1K or 2K. :P I think the theory on primers vs loaded rounds is that primers are considered to be explosives, but ammunition is not. Weird, yes. You're absolutely right on ordering. Presuming it's within the budget, the formula would be something like order quantity = round down to nearest thousand (10K - (quantity on hand - quantity to be loaded prior to order arrival)), i.e. if you have 2.5K on hand and you're going to load 500 rounds this weekend, order 8K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 FWIW: until 2359 tonight, Brownells has WSP on sale for $131.99/5K with free shipping and $0.01 HAZMAT... https://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_154942436526418&key=79bd9386a12d9ac58a81d42672c87dc4&libId=jrsn90g50101ax4w000DAbzrmfebp&subId=3532157973&loc=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.brianenos.com%2Fforum%2F219-brownells%2F&v=1&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brownells.com%2F%3Fmc_ID%3D100008%26avad%3Davant%26aid%3D18449%26cm_mmc%3Daffiliate-_-Itwine-_-Avantlink-_-Selection%2C%2BService%2C%2BSatisfaction%26utm_medium%3Daffiliate%26utm_source%3DAvantlink%26utm_content%3D2201%26utm_campaign%3DItwine&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.brianenos.com%2F&title=BROWNELLS - Brian Enos's Forums... Maku mozo!&txt= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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