gunner01 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) What do you use for a secondary optic on your PCC for USPSA? Edited February 3, 2019 by gunner01 Link to comment
Bwillis Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) cmr206 Edited February 3, 2019 by Bwillis Link to comment
Flatland Shooter Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) Voted "Other" since I have both. On my main match guns, I have CMR-206 lasers mounted forward of C-more Railways and Burris FF3 dots at 45 degrees. With the FF3 dots I experimented a bit. I tried using a large dot for shooting around semi-hard leans and I tried using the small dot for longer distance plates (the ones that the 6 MOA C-more completely covered). I see the poll was reset so my new vote is "both laser and offset dot". Edited February 5, 2019 by Flatland Shooter Link to comment
HoMiE Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, gunner01 said: What do you use for a secondary optic on your PCC for USPSA? Hard leans, simply tilt gun and look through offset. Link to comment
Clint U66 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 Offset micro dot is the way to go. Link to comment
45plinkster Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Offset micro dot for me. Link to comment
goldfish Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 Offset micro dot behind primary Link to comment
ABQautoxer Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) Those that have both the laser and the offset microdot with a reflex sight, can you post pics? Bonus points if its a GMR15. With the HS510, I have really limited real estate up top so I'm thinking the laser might need to be mounted on the top of my smoke hand guard using an MLOK to pic rail adapter and a riser. Edited February 5, 2019 by ABQautoxer Link to comment
S&W686 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I have a Crimson Trace Rail Master with green laser on my JP GMR-15. I have used it in several matches and it has been very useful on very close targets and hard leans. Link to comment
stick Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 For very hard hard leans nothing beats a laser. You can simply hold the gun out and around and see the dot on the target and fire. Link to comment
Bill Schwab Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Crimson Trace has a pretty good promotion going right now: https://www.crimsontrace.com/company/promotions/free-rail-master-promotion-2019-featured-online-retailers Link to comment
Acer2428 Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I've run a laser @ 12:00 and recently tried an offset @ 35*. While in practice I can pick up the dot on leans, I have yet to come across a situation in a match where I found it faster than the laser. I'm contemplating ditching it to save the weight/peripheral field of vision. Link to comment
Startingover Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 11 hours ago, ABQautoxer said: Those that have both the laser and the offset microdot with a reflex sight, can you post pics? Bonus points if its a GMR15. With the HS510, I have really limited real estate up top so I'm thinking the laser might need to be mounted on the top of my smoke hand guard using an MLOK to pic rail adapter and a riser. You won't want a riser for the laser, because then it will be in the way of your reg optic. Just mount it low as you can, and hopefully you will be able to look right over it. Link to comment
longbeard Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 I run a laser in the offset position behind my Holosun. I'm considering moving to the front of the gun, but on the side of the rail vs. the top. Thinking this could be useful for shooting through skinny ports where hold overs can get dicey Link to comment
Aircooled6racer Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Hello: Put the laser at the front and at 45 degrees so when you need a hard lean with your weak hand it is not covered by your front hand. Thanks, Eric Link to comment
gunner01 Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Startingover said: You won't want a riser for the laser, because then it will be in the way of your reg optic. Just mount it low as you can, and hopefully you will be able to look right over it. Plus the closer you can get an optic to the bore it reduces holdovers/unders. It would be cool if the laser could mount in the space between the barrel and handguard. Low to the bore and protected and leave your sight lines completely unobstructed. Maybe this will be possible with one more generation of miniaturization? Link to comment
ABQautoxer Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 The riser idea was to clear my thumb that wraps over the top of the hand guard. I like your placement but i wonder how much in view that is through the sight. I'll be experimenting this week as the parts arrive to try a few locations. Thanks for the advice and pics. Link to comment
Startingover Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 3 hours ago, ABQautoxer said: The riser idea was to clear my thumb that wraps over the top of the hand guard. I like your placement but i wonder how much in view that is through the sight. I'll be experimenting this week as the parts arrive to try a few locations. Thanks for the advice and pics. On mine, I cant even see it. Vortex razor on a strike kind. Rex riser Link to comment
ABQautoxer Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 This is how I have my laser now, untested other than dry fire. I can lower it to the HG tomorrow to copy you. Link to comment
RaylanGivens Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 On 2/5/2019 at 11:04 AM, longbeard said: I run a laser in the offset position behind my Holosun. I'm considering moving to the front of the gun, but on the side of the rail vs. the top. Thinking this could be useful for shooting through skinny ports where hold overs can get dicey Using a Holosun 510c for my main optic... Thinking about adding a laser using the TruGlo 45 degree mount... Which mount did you use? I have a Taccom carbon fiber hand guard, so mounting anything on the handguard is a no go for me. Link to comment
longbeard Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 27 minutes ago, RaylanGivens said: Using a Holosun 510c for my main optic... Thinking about adding a laser using the TruGlo 45 degree mount... Which mount did you use? I have a Taccom carbon fiber hand guard, so mounting anything on the handguard is a no go for me. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RSMZGC0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Works well with a little loctite. Only complaint is unloaded starts I sometimes gouge a finger on the set screw. Link to comment
RaylanGivens Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, longbeard said: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RSMZGC0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Works well with a little loctite. Only complaint is unloaded starts I sometimes gouge a finger on the set screw. Thanks for the info... https://www.amazon.com/TRUGLO-Offset-Picatinny-Scopes-Optics/dp/B01N1X5JZL/ The Truglo offset mount looks a little skinnier on the side... no big knob... Maybe less likely to bang your hands on... Still thinking... The laser is the expensive part... Good tip on the Loctite... I always use Blue Loctite 243 on sight mounts... Link to comment
Pewpewlife Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I use a vortex venom on a warne offset mount. Takes about a day of dryfire practice to be proficient in indexing the dot quick. I don't use it often but when I do, I def save some time. Link to comment
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