bret Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 15 hours ago, RJH said: Well then a tilted cart wouldn't be a dq What is the tilted cart exemption rule #? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, bret said: What is the tilted cart exemption rule #? What is the tilted cart equals dq rule number? Seems that measurments are made on flat level ground, not "tilted where i think you had it" or "the gun was pointed too far out when you crested that hill" Go your safe space.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1911 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 My PCC is pointed at the ground approximately 3 inches in front of the front tire with chamber flag in and straps applied. You'd have to walk directly up to the front of my cart and put your foot next to the tire for anything to be swept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, Matt1911 said: My PCC is pointed at the ground approximately 3 inches in front of the front tire with chamber flag in and straps applied. You'd have to walk directly up to the front of my cart and put your foot next to the tire for anything to be swept. Right, also notice that rule 5.2. Something saye that the gun has to be pointed within three feet of the conveyance, not three feet from center. It shows how unreasonably threatened some people are by pccs, that they want to make up rules to dq someone for transporting one correctly in a cart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, RJH said: Right, also notice that rule 5.2. Something saye that the gun has to be pointed within three feet of the conveyance, not three feet from center. It shows how unreasonably threatened some people are by pccs, that they want to make up rules to dq someone for transporting one correctly in a cart Who “wants” to DQ somebody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Sarge said: Who “wants” to DQ somebody? I think you started the whole "better not tilt your cart and sweep someone line" so...... But we are now into 5 pages, most of which is two or three people with pcc derangement syndrome, and still the only kinda actual issue with pccs, is that sometimes they are slower at make ready and ULSC, but not always, cause i shoot with a couple of guys that generally shoot pcc and they fall in the middle of the pack at those two things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, RJH said: I think you started the whole "better not tilt your cart and sweep someone line" so...... But we are now into 5 pages, most of which is two or three people with pcc derangement syndrome, and still the only kinda actual issue with pccs, is that sometimes they are slower at make ready and ULSC, but not always, cause i shoot with a couple of guys that generally shoot pcc and they fall in the middle of the pack at those two things. Only issue is they are slower to make ready and clear?!? That’s trivial compared to the restrictions put on stage design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sarge said: Only issue is they are slower to make ready and clear?!? That’s trivial compared to the restrictions put on stage design Who is putting restrictions on stage design? I have seen no change in stage design in my area. This was actually the point of this thread in the beginning. Maybe i missed the rule changes in the book about stage design, please point them out to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, Sarge said: Only issue is they are slower to make ready and clear?!? That’s trivial compared to the restrictions put on stage design I could live happily with both, needing to be in the shooters underwear to make sure the last shot wasn't missed with the real quiet guns is the one that bugs me. Shot an out of state local while on vacation this month, fun squad and good folks but sort of casual about r.o. things. Heard some great times announced for a couple pcc runs and then volunteered to run the timer and saw that it was not adjusted at high enough sensitivity to catch any shots where you were not right on top of the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, RJH said: I think you started the whole "better not tilt your cart and sweep someone line" so...... But we are now into 5 pages, most of which is two or three people with pcc derangement syndrome, and still the only kinda actual issue with pccs, is that sometimes they are slower at make ready and ULSC, but not always, cause i shoot with a couple of guys that generally shoot pcc and they fall in the middle of the pack at those two things. If you sweep someone with your pcc it is a DQ, what is so hard to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, RJH said: Who is putting restrictions on stage design? I have seen no change in stage design in my area. This was actually the point of this thread in the beginning. Maybe i missed the rule changes in the book about stage design, please point them out to me Nothing in the rules. Isn’t your area where most PCC guys are 3 gunners? Mine isn’t, so stages get scrutinized by RM’s for PCC “compatibility “. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, bret said: If you sweep someone with your pcc it is a DQ, what is so hard to understand? Yeah just like a pistol, no difference, kinda my point. But some seem to want to act like there is some big difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Yawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sarge said: Nothing in the rules. Isn’t your area where most PCC guys are 3 gunners? Mine isn’t, so stages get scrutinized by RM’s for PCC “compatibility “. That is a md/rm issue. Stages are either legal or not, amy more or less than that is not a pcc issue, it is a md/rm issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bret Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, RJH said: Yeah just like a pistol, no difference, kinda my point. But some seem to want to act like there is some big difference PCC guys are the ones sweeping themselves and others with their PCC, rarely do I go to a match where I don't see pcc handled in a manner that sweeps themselves or others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, RJH said: That is a md/rm issue. Stages are either legal or not, amy more or less than that is not a pcc issue, it is a md/rm issue Correct. Because of PCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Enough. If anyone thinks they have something constructive or intelligent to add, feel free to PM a Moderator and we'll take it under consideration. Closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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