Sarge Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, RaylanGivens said: Why is everyone running these short barrels with a welded extension? Why not just build an SBR? Is it solely to avoid paying for a tax stamp? ...and the hassle involved? That's what I would think. If you bought one today you likely wouldn't get to shoot it this year in a match. I wouldn't want the hassle for traveling etc. Link to comment
Hi-Power Jack Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, RaylanGivens said: Why is everyone running these short barrels with a welded extension? Possible so that a compensator at the end of a short barrel will be effective, yet the welded extension makes it a "rifle" or PCC. ??? I've read that a comp at the end of a 16" barrel is ineffective. Link to comment
Startingover Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, RaylanGivens said: Why is everyone running these short barrels with a welded extension? Why not just build an SBR? Is it solely to avoid paying for a tax stamp? ...and the hassle involved? I know I dont want to pay up! Link to comment
rishii Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, RaylanGivens said: Why is everyone running these short barrels with a welded extension? Why not just build an SBR? Is it solely to avoid paying for a tax stamp? ...and the hassle involved? I would if I could, but sbr’s are illegal here Link to comment
rishii Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 hour ago, RaylanGivens said: Why is everyone running these short barrels with a welded extension? Why not just build an SBR? Is it solely to avoid paying for a tax stamp? ...and the hassle involved? I would if I could, but sbr’s are illegal here Link to comment
mmlook Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 it's also not easy to travel with an SBR Link to comment
Bwillis Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said: I've read that a comp at the end of a 16" barrel is ineffective. Dont believe everything you read. How much does a comp help? I don’t know, but tuning your load, buffer, spring comb is the best way to stay flat a comp on a 16” does help. Link to comment
TNREDNECK Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 The problem with the SBR is getting permission to travel to different states not the cost of the stamp , at least that is my understanding. Link to comment
sixsixnine Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 40 minutes ago, TNREDNECK said: The problem with the SBR is getting permission to travel to different states not the cost of the stamp , at least that is my understanding. Getting permission isn't all that difficult. It's a simple notification form sent to BATFE. The real issue is that SBRs are illegal at the state/local level in certain areas. Link to comment
TNREDNECK Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 As long as you have all your events planned out in advance , it would be no problem ,but no spur of the moment SBR match, that’s what the pro shooter that comes to our club says, it’s no problem for me club match only . Link to comment
TNREDNECK Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 In the South all most all the states are still free , legal everywhere ! Link to comment
Acer2428 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 On 1/31/2019 at 7:23 PM, Sarge said: That's what I would think. If you bought one today you likely wouldn't get to shoot it this year in a match. I wouldn't want the hassle for traveling etc. E-file (as long as the .gov can stay open). Took me under 2 weeks to get my Form 1 back for my MPX. That said, the sweet spot for me is somewhere between 8 and 12" for barrel length. That said, I can't shoot the IL Section match unless I un-SBR my SBR beforehand. Link to comment
lacivilian Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Acer2428 said: E-file (as long as the .gov can stay open). Took me under 2 weeks to get my Form 1 back for my MPX. That said, the sweet spot for me is somewhere between 8 and 12" for barrel length. That said, I can't shoot the IL Section match unless I un-SBR my SBR beforehand. I am still waiting for a Form 1 to come back now, been right at 2 months now. Link to comment
RaylanGivens Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Acer2428 said: E-file (as long as the .gov can stay open). Took me under 2 weeks to get my Form 1 back for my MPX. That said, the sweet spot for me is somewhere between 8 and 12" for barrel length. That said, I can't shoot the IL Section match unless I un-SBR my SBR beforehand. https://www.realgunreviews.com/how-to-e-file-an-atf-form-1-with-eforms/ Found the above link for filling out the E-File electronic filing of the Form 1... Quite involved... I can see why people don't want to deal with it. Link to comment
mellino19 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 On 1/23/2019 at 7:24 PM, tha1000 said: Never shot one. They are at the very top of the price scale for a pcc, I believe. $2900 without optics, just like a some open guns Link to comment
Halo09 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 1/30/2019 at 10:38 AM, Silverscooby27 said: Not the same. The JP is a 5 inch barrel with 11 inches of bs welded to the end of it to make it legal, and the Limcat is a 10 inch barrel with 6 inches of bs welded to the end of it to make it legal. The JP puts your hand out past the end of the barrel and the limcat shortens the handguard so you can’t put your hand out past the end of the barrel. I’m sticking with 14.5 pin and weld. Taccom has ran that same system for 2 years now and I've never heard of a handguard strike or a tumbled projectile coming through the shroud. I didn't like the way it felt, so I went with a JP 14.5 pinned barrel personally. Link to comment
Halo09 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 11 hours ago, mellino19 said: $2900 without optics, just like a some open guns I think that the JP and the MBX ready rifles are a better value if you are looking for race ready out of the box. IMHO Link to comment
NervousEnergy Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 It's beautiful and I'm sure supremely well made, but I can't fathom paying that for a blowback gun. Link to comment
TheStagePlan Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) Here is Mine, My theme was to build A Carbon Cat not the official build or something that will be offered as the base Tron is most likely a softer shooting gun as mine while very flat is super light. I had smoke composites make a custom carbon handguard to go with the carbon stock and a 10inch Carbon BSF barrel pinned to the 6inch Tron Titanium muzzle break. I flew out out to pick it up on Saturday night flew back Sunday morning made 500 rds of ammo. The gun ran flawless, the load details are in the description box on YouTube. Edited March 11, 2019 by TheStagePlan Link to comment
Halo09 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Nice! Wish I had access to a range like that! Link to comment
egd5 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Wish I had access to a bank account like that. LOL Link to comment
TheStagePlan Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, egd5 said: Wish I had access to a bank account like that. LOL Im fortunate I get to work a lot of hours I have clocked 370 hours some months Edited March 11, 2019 by TheStagePlan Link to comment
egd5 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 You deserve what you have for sure. Hope you know I was just making a lame joke. Link to comment
TheStagePlan Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, egd5 said: You deserve what you have for sure. Hope you know I was just making a lame joke. oh yeah I didn’t take any offense. Link to comment
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