Postal Bob Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 3.6gr titegroup, 125gr Ibejiheads RN, 1.150" oal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS23 Posted January 14, 2019 Author Share Posted January 14, 2019 4 hours ago, BJB said: As stated by previous posters, OAL is specific to your bullet & your chamber leade. You have to determine it. The OAL listed in manuals is a kind of guide if you will but it is still only relevant to that particular bullet and chamber leade. These powder charge weights guys are giving you are all good suggestions and are on the lower end if you look at it. They should all power factor at 130 to 135 or so. This is not pushing it as far as safety goes by any means. Oh okay. Everything is starting to make more sense. Thanks a lot. So for the charges, maybe using 10% lower than the maximum charge is a safe starting point. For the OAL, that will depend on the results of my plunk test for each type of bullet and gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 5 hours ago, JohnS23 said: 10% lower than the maximum charge is a safe starting point. I like to start at the Minimum charge and work up, slowly, with a chrono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 23 hours ago, JohnS23 said: Oh okay. Everything is starting to make more sense. Thanks a lot. So for the charges, maybe using 10% lower than the maximum charge is a safe starting point. For the OAL, that will depend on the results of my plunk test for each type of bullet and gun. You can go directly to the loads recommended. They’re all under that point. And unless you have a really good starting point (thousands of people use those loads nationwide) start at minimum and work up with a chrono. You are playing with explosives you’ll be holding in your hands when you detonate them, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankdiesel Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 147gr zero jhp, 3.0gr titegroup at 1.120". Works well in my handguns and MPX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, hankdiesel said: 147gr zero jhp, 3.0gr titegroup at 1.120". Works well in my handguns and MPX. Seems a bit low to make PF in a pistol. Most JHP 147s need 3.4+ while coated 3.2. 130 -135 PF. 3.0 with a JHP in a pistol probably feels real good and flat, but my experience in multiple guns would probably not make PF, ever. PD JRN 147 in TF S2 3.5 gr 130 PF, same load CZ Shadow 2 135 PF. ACME 147 FP (coated) 3.2 gr same PFs. Both 1.14 OAL Edited January 19, 2019 by HesedTech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) The OAL listed in manuals/data is completely useless; always determine your own OAL (Tutorial). Since I own a CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow all my 9mm gets loaded to 1.09 with a CamPro 147gr bullet. Why? Because it has the shortest barrel leade in my stable of 9mm handguns. I don't bother tailoring the OAL to each handgun. I've found that OAL has little to no affect on accuracy at "gaming" distances (25 yard or closer). If you change the bullet make sure you recheck the OAL. Some bullets allow you to load longer, some shorter. Sometimes the magazine will be the limiting factor. Edited January 20, 2019 by 4n2t0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G34production Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 124 gr RN xtreme bullet with 3.5 gr of tire group. Very accurate and shoft shooting load. Great for plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G34production Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I also use for production minor 147 gr RN xtreme with 3.2 gr titegroup. Makes 130 pf no problem. Great accuracy and low recoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 6:58 PM, hankdiesel said: 147gr zero jhp, 3.0gr titegroup at 1.120". Works well in my handguns and MPX. 147 zero jhp, 3.3-3.4 grains titegroup, 1.132 138 pf 125 zero jhp 4.2 titegroup, 1.132 140 PF G34 likes it hotter. To the OP, remember you are loading for YOUR gun, YOUR shooting style, YOUR preferred recoil impulse, not for anyone else. If it works for you and you like it, go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS23 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Thanks for all the suggestions. These have helped me a lot. I really appreciate everyone’s input. I wouldn’t have learned anywhere else but this forum! I tried a couple of load data posted here and found the “best” that works for me. Sharing this for those who also use a G19. 147gr RN - SNS coated 3.5 gr Titegroup OAL - 1.125 I will be investing in a competition gun now. Looking at the PPQ Q5 match. Hopefully this same data works, if not I now know what to look for, thanks to everyone here! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, JohnS23 said: Thanks for all the suggestions. These have helped me a lot. I really appreciate everyone’s input. I wouldn’t have learned anywhere else but this forum! I tried a couple of load data posted here and found the “best” that works for me. Sharing this for those who also use a G19. 147gr RN - SNS coated 3.5 gr Titegroup OAL - 1.125 I will be investing in a competition gun now. Looking at the PPQ Q5 match. Hopefully this same data works, if not I now know what to look for, thanks to everyone here! Cheers Whenever you get a new gun just make sure you check what OAL the barrel/bullet combo will allow. PPQ's have a short leade just like my CZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJB Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, JohnS23 said: Thanks for all the suggestions. These have helped me a lot. I really appreciate everyone’s input. I wouldn’t have learned anywhere else but this forum! I tried a couple of load data posted here and found the “best” that works for me. Sharing this for those who also use a G19. 147gr RN - SNS coated 3.5 gr Titegroup OAL - 1.125 I will be investing in a competition gun now. Looking at the PPQ Q5 match. Hopefully this same data works, if not I now know what to look for, thanks to everyone here! Cheers What velocity/power factor does 3.5 grains give you? That has to be up above 140PF or so for a coated 147 gr bullet, even in a G19. I don't even use 3.5 gr for my 135gr bullets. BTW: If you get the Q5 and run that load through it the velocity and power factor will be even higher. Edited January 22, 2019 by BJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz427 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 My favorite minor load, and my wife’s favorite is 2.8g titegroup behind a 147g coated lead bullet, usually blue bullet, loaded to 1.15-1.16. It’s like shooting a 22 in a full-size gun. But my wife is so small that a micro compact literally fits her like a full size 2011 fits me. Like a sig p938 is a full size gun to her. So regular 9mm loads are snappy as hell even for me with those little mouse guns. But this load shoots great out of them. Ever since I loaded a few of this for her she refuses to shoot her old load which was still pretty damn soft, 3.4g unique 147g. Im extra careful loading it though. The charge is so tiny that you could probably quadruple charge it without it spilling over. A double charge looks like a normal charge. It’s so small my powder check barely moves up. I much prefer unique when loading for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS23 Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 On 1/21/2019 at 9:22 PM, BJB said: What velocity/power factor does 3.5 grains give you? That has to be up above 140PF or so for a coated 147 gr bullet, even in a G19. I don't even use 3.5 gr for my 135gr bullets. BTW: If you get the Q5 and run that load through it the velocity and power factor will be even higher. Thanks for the advice. I will need to make a new load for the q5. As for velocity/power factor, I have not run this through a chrono. Although for me, it feels very light in my gun. Having a smaller charge for the 147 gr. Bullet feels slow to me. The 3.5gr seem to make it snappy enough to come back to sight alignment. This is for my G19 and 1911 5” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mveto Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 My loads with Titegroup, shot out of a CZ TS 124rn jacketed 3.8gr, 1.130, 129pf 147rn plated 3.1gr, 1.125, 130pf both of these loads out of my PCC with the MBX 14.5 barrel will make 138-140pf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_t0ny Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 3.9gr of TG behind a 124gr Xtreme RN plated @ 1.150 overall length with a Winchester small pistol primer is about 1050fps out of a 5in 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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