Fo0 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, Gooldylocks said: And you can still buy new 10mm guns, doesn't mean it isn't a defunct market in day to day terms. How many boxes of 38 Super(let alone comp) do you think a retailer like sportsmans sells in one day of operation, compared to 10mm? How about 10mm compared to 40? Compared to 9mm? Coffin, meet nail. doesn't 't look like sportsmans sells 38 super at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoMiE Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Fo0 said: doesn't 't look like sportsmans sells 38 super at all Try finding 9 major at any store. If you do find it it will probably be next to the 38 Super comp. 9 is just more versatile since you can shoot steel or 3gun at minor pf and not have to worry about scrounging all of your brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvc4you Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Nobody is debating that 9mm is cheaper to shoot.Also there are crappy open guns no matter what the caliber...But when GMs that don’t pay for their brass or guns start using 9mm, that tells the story.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Fo0 said: I meant at the comment that said 38 super will be dead in 10 years I agree in terms of USPSA Open guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 38 minutes ago, Fo0 said: doesn't 't look like sportsmans sells 38 super at all And if they did it still wouldn’t make major PF. Off the shelf 38super is really only 9mm with a few extra ++ after +P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 38 minutes ago, dvc4you said: But when GMs that don’t pay for their brass or guns start using 9mm, that tells the story. I know a GM who is also a gunsmith, and he switched to 9mm both in shooting and building, years ago. I had his 9mm gun and it was 100% reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Someone better tell SV... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Sarge said: Those aren’t competition guns. I think 38 Super is a great cartridge and would love to have one for carry or fun. I just might have one for sale . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Explosiveo Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Found in front of the USPSA headquarters.Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Maximis228 said: Someone better tell SV... They know. They still build many 9mm IMM blasters. It’s a total marketing scheme and it works as people call and beg for them weekly and pay whatever it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinarel Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 On 1/2/2019 at 3:53 PM, Hi-Power Jack said: Was it just a fantastic dream ?, or did someone mention here a few weeks ago, that Rob Leatham said 9mm is the way to go ??? Pinch me. Out of curiosity, do you have a source for this? Would like to read TGO's thoughts on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakay Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Posvar said: They know. They still build many 9mm IMM blasters. It’s a total marketing scheme and it works as people call and beg for them weekly and pay whatever it takes. Is this for real? What is the 9mm premium or is this fake news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Seehawer Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Y’all gonna feel stupid when 380 Major blows 9 Major out of the water. The 10mm vs 40 thing is the dumbest comparison I’ve ever heard. If thousands of police ranges gave 10mm brass away by the bucketload, 10mm would be the perfect Limited/SS preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gunDQ Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, B_Seehawer said: Y’all gonna feel stupid when 380 Major blows 9 Major out of the water. Troof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Balakay said: Is this for real? What is the 9mm premium or is this fake news? Now you are gonna call aren’t you? True or not in the method/delivery they are still building them. Edited January 4, 2019 by Posvar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Shinarel said: Out of curiosity, do you have a source for this? Wish I did. Sorry. Thought I read it HERE at BE, but might be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBurgess Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Y’all gonna feel stupid when 380 Major blows 9 Major out of the water. The 10mm vs 40 thing is the dumbest comparison I’ve ever heard. If thousands of police ranges gave 10mm brass away by the bucketload, 10mm would be the perfect Limited/SS preference. That's the point 10mm is dumb because 40 does the job plenty good enough with cheep brass. Oddly just like 9mm does in open. Just in limited nobody thinks its dumb to use 40.Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 13 hours ago, Posvar said: They know. They still build many 9mm IMM blasters. It’s a total marketing scheme and it works as people call and beg for them weekly and pay whatever it takes. LOL... OK guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I know I was a bit purposefully dramatic but they are still making them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 31 minutes ago, Posvar said: I know I was a bit purposefully dramatic but they are still making them. Just like how you can get one in under a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Hmmmm, I don’t recall saying that. I’m sure anything is possible with the green stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Its common Knowledge SV will let you bump up in line for $1000. Same goes for 9 major. They will make it for another $1000. Brandon will also not guarantee it will run... Ask the few guys that have done that recently. SV seems to be the one place that cant make a running 9 major gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gunDQ Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just now, Maximis228 said: Its common Knowledge SV will let you bump up in line for $1000. Same goes for 9 major. They will make it for another $1000. You are ignorant. I have bought several SVs and I offered to pay extra each time for them to just build it and the won’t do it. My 9 was cheaper than all the supercomp builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis228 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) I get it. You have a lot invested. Edited January 4, 2019 by Maximis228 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 I think what a lot of it comes down to is that so many 38 shooters think their guns are flatter and softer than a 9mm, because of the higher charge weight. But if you use slow powder in 9mm similar to what you would in a 38, then all of the sudden your 9mm feels great. I'm loading 9 grains of HS6. I have buddies loading 10.5 grains of AA7, or 9.5ish of 3n38. Use slow powder, and your 9mm will feel just as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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