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Are all lubricants created equal?

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I could give two sh*ts about whether or not you use motor oil as long as you're informed of the hazards. Accusing me of spreading misinformation is silly when the MSDS says right on it "avoid contact with spilled material", if you touch it to "wash hands with soap and water", if you get any in you "the individual should be evaluated immediately by a physician as a surgical emergency" and not to use the stuff for anything other than the intended purpose. Then I pass that info along to my friends here and let them decide whether these things sound rosy and fun but get attacked for it. We deal with enough health hazards in this sport and I don't know about you but I'd prefer to limit my potential exposures. But if you think motor oil is great, knock yourself out, no one's crying about it and I won't attack you for it.

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Mobil 1 is among the safest lubes you can come in contact with. This is from the MSDS sheets of all the following oils. Numbers listed are for Health, flammability, and Reactivity.

 

Mobil 1     0. 1. 0. 

CLP.          0.  1. 0. 

G96.         1. 4. 0. 

Remoil.    1. 2. 0. 

Slick 50.  1. 3. 0. 

Slip 2000.1. 1. 0. 

LSA.          1. 1. 0. 

Hoppes.   2. 3. 0. 

Lucas oil. 2. 1. 0. 

Lucas grease. 2. 1. 0. 

 

Slide glide even had a warning of injection under the skin just like Mobil 1 had. Every single one said to wash your hands after. It became apparent that regardless of your choice they all carry very very minimal health risks. To argue otherwise is foolish.

 

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Hated to see the "2" for health on Hoppes.  I use it a lot for gun cleaning since it seems to dissolve powder residue quite well.  Back to the vinyl gloves, I guess.

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22 hours ago, Absocold said:

I could give two sh*ts about whether or not you use motor oil as long as you're informed of the hazards. Accusing me of spreading misinformation is silly when the MSDS says right on it "avoid contact with spilled material", if you touch it to "wash hands with soap and water", if you get any in you "the individual should be evaluated immediately by a physician as a surgical emergency" and not to use the stuff for anything other than the intended purpose. Then I pass that info along to my friends here and let them decide whether these things sound rosy and fun but get attacked for it. We deal with enough health hazards in this sport and I don't know about you but I'd prefer to limit my potential exposures. But if you think motor oil is great, knock yourself out, no one's crying about it and I won't attack you for it.

 You keep coming back to this surgical emergency I would consider it a emergency any time ANY chemical was injected into a human body that was not intended for that purpose.  It also dose not say that if you get any "in" you it an emergency.  In fact what it says under first aid is "INGESTION, First aid is normally not required. Seek medical attention if discomfort occurs."  You are absolutely spreading misinformation by only cherry picking part of the information.  

 

Better not use break free CLP the following is form the break free CLP MSDS

· Exposure controls
· Engineering measures Provide adequate ventilation.
· Personal protective equipment:
· General protective and hygienic measures:
Avoid close or long term contact with the skin.
Avoid contact with the eyes.
Keep away from foodstuffs, beverages and feed.
Wash hands before breaks and at the end of work.

· Engineering controls: Provide adequate ventilation.
· Breathing equipment:
Not required under normal conditions of use.
Use suitable respiratory protective device in case of insufficient ventilation.
Use suitable respiratory protective device when high concentrations are present.
· Protection of hands:
Rubber gloves
The glove material has to be impermeable and resistant to the product/ the substance/ the preparation.

Selection of the glove material on consideration of the penetration times, rates of diffusion and the
degradation
Sensibilization by the components in the glove materials is possible.

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I typically clean with breakfree clp.   Then once I wipe everything off I lubricate with WeaponShield.   I have no idea if it's the "best"  but it's never failed me in any of my guns so I have no desire to change.

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I've always been a fan of Astroglide, it handles heat and friction well. As to what to use on firearms, sound like anything works.

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On 2/5/2019 at 7:19 AM, Joe4d said:

Retired in 08,,, Breakfree was still winning the Army tests,   Googled to see what they are using now and seems they have developed some dry film lubricant, anyone tried that ? Seems like it wouldnt float out carbon... However in dessert storm I played with dry graphite lube on a 231, and an M16A2,, seemed to work fine... although still needed CLP to clean it, just got parts dry as you could before putting on graphite powder.
Oh but bear / whale/ pig grease is still pretty good on Blackpowder as it doesnt make tar like petro oils,,, 

 

They have been testing Strike Hold and have had very positive feedback from combat use. I’ve been testing Strike Hold 1 and 2. Strike Hold 1 is an amazing cleaner. Strike Hold 2 is more environmentally friendly and it cleans OK but not nearly as a good as SH1 IMO. As far as it’s ability to lubricate, it’s been working fine in my weapons with similar results to Hornady One Shot. I just wish they would publish some ASTM standard test data like Shell four ball wear and weld test or Timken OK tests.

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