dons Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I'm loading 38 Super with 8.4 grains of Silhouette. I've done all the recommended steps (aftermarket ball, spring, rollers, etc.) to make the shellplate travel smoother and not come to an abrupt stop at the end of the stroke. But I still was getting powder spilling onto the shellplate. It appears that the powder is somehow sticking to the end of the powder check rod, then falls off when the case is withdrawn from the powder check die. I've polished the end of the rod and wiped it with a dryer sheet to try to eliminate "static cling." When I operate the press without the powder rod, I get no spillage. Anyone else seen this occur? Any Ideas to solve it? I'm now just using a light to insure the powder level is correct, but I'd like to use the powder check die as designed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sarge Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Sorry, but ditch the powder check and just visually check each case for powder. I hav never seen the need for powder checks in pistol loads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeman711 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I have the same problem as Dons when loading 223. Can't remove the powder ck. and see in the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 41 minutes ago, orangeman711 said: I have the same problem as Dons when loading 223. Can't remove the powder ck. and see in the case. True, but not needed for pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dons Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 On 11/28/2018 at 1:39 PM, R1valdez said: Really appreciate the time you took to post. This will certainly help spilling that occurs from centrifugal force when the shellplate advances. Still looking for an answer to the "powder-sticking-to-rod problem. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dons Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) On 11/28/2018 at 1:40 PM, Sarge said: Sorry, but ditch the powder check and just visually check each case for powder. I hav never seen the need for powder checks in pistol loads I respect your opinion, and typically do visually check and do not completely rely on the powder check. But do you have any thoughts to solve my issue besides losing the powder check die altogether? Edited November 30, 2018 by dons typos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, dons said: I respect your opinion, and typically do visually check and do not completely rely on the powder check. But do you have any thoughts to solve my issue besides losing the powder check die altogether? I don't know. Piece of masking tape on the end? Get it hard chromed? Check humidity in loading area? Change powder? Who knows, maybe roughing up the end would help break friction? Bead blast it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1valdez Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, dons said: Lubing my case helped with the powder funnel from sticking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 57 minutes ago, R1valdez said: Lubing my case helped with the powder funnel from sticking. OP isn’t talking about powder funnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3324temp Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Delete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1valdez Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sarge said: OP isn’t talking about powder funnel. Oops my bad. I’d take that powder check die out. You don’t need it. Edited November 30, 2018 by R1valdez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warsaw214 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 If hand placing bullets (not using Mr. bullet Feeder)... Try holding bullet with thumb and index finger while letting your middle finger pad drag along side of shell plate as it advances and stops. This will address zeroing in on press stabilization, shell plate smoothness, and static charge (surface tension) spillage root-causes. This makes you the grounding rod as you are moving 2x the powder of most hand loaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgh Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 On 11/28/2018 at 3:24 PM, dons said: It appears that the powder is somehow sticking to the end of the powder check rod, then falls off when the case is withdrawn from the powder check die. The pc detects double and no charges and isn't really intended to detect small variations from the intended load. For loads that approach half full, a double or no charge will be real obvious when you look in the case. You won't miss it if you look. And if the desired load fills more than half the case, a double charge will be spilling out and all over the machine. You definitely won't miss it. So you can probably dump the pc and see if that fixes things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postal Bob Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Even remove the PC rod, or see if the next larger end will fit into the 38 super case. I know I use the medium for with 9mm/40 cases. Not sure if the large rod would fit, or if it only works for cases 45 and up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dons Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 On 11/30/2018 at 3:20 AM, Warsaw214 said: If hand placing bullets (not using Mr. bullet Feeder)... Try holding bullet with thumb and index finger while letting your middle finger pad drag along side of shell plate as it advances and stops. This will address zeroing in on press stabilization, shell plate smoothness, and static charge (surface tension) spillage root-causes. This makes you the grounding rod as you are moving 2x the powder of most hand loaders. Thank you, this makes sense; but I tried it and it didn't work for me. So I did what I should have in the beginning. I called Dillon. I followed their advice and grounded the press with a wire to one of the plate (ground) screws on a nearby electrical outlet, and wiped the press down with a dryer sheet. Shell plate, powder funnel, inside the powder hopper, anywhere I could reach. Loaded a couple hundred and the spillage is almost nonexistent. So, Warsaw214, I just needed to expand your advice and get a really good ground and use the dryer sheet to eliminate the static electricity. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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