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Vortex PST II vs Steiner P4Xi vs Burris XTR II

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On ‎3‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 4:49 PM, polymerfeelsweirdman said:

Ended up getting the XTR and really like it especially for the money (compared to the Vortexes and Mtacs I've seen)


Thinking of getting another versus a p4xi so I'm having the same dilemma... Seems the price on the pst II's are dropping too though, as dvor had them for $500 and I'm seeing them in the mid to high 500 range more often


Get the Steiner (or a more expensive 1-4X scope).


As a general rule, never fall into the trap of buying glass on basis of price alone...there's no free optics lunch.


All scopes, especially cheap scopes look great in bright daylight. They typically manifest their compromises when it counts:

1. low-light performance

2. discerning small targets or detail at reasonable distances,

3. Turret tracking/repeatability

4. discerning targets in the face of mirage


I could go on, but i think you get my drift.


Top end magnification is not everything...it may not be useful if the glass is of lower quality.


I shoot NRA highpower, which means i run 1-4X scopes on an AR-15 out to 600yards and on AR-10 (M110 builds to 1,000yards)...I shoot with either a March 1-4.5X scope (started with NF 1-4).  The glass on these scope is so good that i can see the 1/4" scoring rings & the 3" high numbers at 600yards....I could also very easily track mirage movements and dial appropriately for windage....i couldn't see either clearly with a cheaper 1-4X Vortex...I have to get off the gun and peer into my 25X spotting scope do the same thing I could with my March or NF scope.


I know it's cliché, but honestly dude, Buy once, Cry once.


Good luck.

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Has anyone tried the Nikon Blackforce 1-4?  It looks to be reasonably priced.

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One for sale in classifieds 

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On ‎11‎/‎20‎/‎2018 at 10:21 PM, GIO said:

P4xi. Amazing glass, super bright dot.  Nice clean ret. look for the LE model. Comes with scope lever




Awesome scope.  If you can't smack 500 yard IPSC steel with it, 6X ain't going to help you.

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FYI, DSG Arms has PST Gen 2 on sale for $475 and P4Xi with throw lever for $509 (may have to log in to see those prices).  I think those are good deals; don't recall ever seeing the Viper that cheap before.




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