techj Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 So, I recently acquired an SAA with a 5 1/2" barrel. A friend of mine gave a substantial quantity of Oregon Trail Laser-Cut 200 & 250 gr RNFP bullets. I am looking for suggestions on a Cowboy/low recoil load using components (aforementioned bullets and powders below) that I already have rather than buying new. The powders that I have are Bullseye, AA#5, Zip, True Blue and Silhouette. The loads will not be for competition but for plinking, limited to a maximum of 25 yards. Any insight or suggestions would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybayonet Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 The only powder I have used out of that group is the AA#5 and I don't think that would give you the results you want. For my cowboy loads, I use red dot or even better unique for the real feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyd Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Hornady shows a load for the 200 grain using #5 or bullseye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solvability Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Bullseye is a good choice but I really liked Titegroup (heresy I know since it is hot and smoky but was quite accurate and light recoil) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyd Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Go to Oregon Trail site and download their manual its free. They have loaded using bullseye for both bullets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 I use 45 Cowboy brass and then low 45 ACP data. Probably go with your BE powder. You didnt mention already having brass. Smaller case makes light loading easier. Basically it is a brass with the length of 45 ACP but a 45 colt base. You will have to check your cylinder throats, and barrel grooves to determine which sizing die and bullet size to use .Depending on when and where your gun was made sizing could be any where from 451 to 454.. Could also end up with a 451 cylinder and 454 barrel or vs versa again depending on when a d where. Hopefully u get lucky and cylinder is 1/2 to 1 thousands bigger than groove. My gun is an Uberti clone,,, set up just fine for .452 bullets.. .452 is snug in throats. lands .451... Makes things easy as I can use same bullets as my 45acp. Cant help u if you are using 45 colt brass. All mine are loaded with 1/2 charge of pyrodex and a fiber wad for mounted blanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postal Bob Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 I use 5 gr titegroup powder over a 250 gr coated bullet. Personally I wouldn't use the Oregan Trail bullets in a light/cowboy load. Their bullets have a very high anitomy content(about 24 BHN). At cowboy load velocities you will not get bullet base obturation to seal the bullet against the rifling, and hence get greater leading of the barrel. The bullets I use, have a BHN of 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
et45 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 5 grns of Bullseye with a 250 gr lead bullet is very accurate in my Bisley Vaquero.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techj Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 Thanks to all - using 5 of BE under the 250 has so far (less than 100 rounds) proven to be accurate enough for my needs and I haven't seen any sign of leading...just lube & powder residue as expected. Will be trying the same load but with the 200's soon. After I use up the BE that I have I am going to get some Trail Boss to see how that does in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Local cowboy shooters that use Bullseye 4.2 under a 200 gr bullet. I dont know the clays load but if you wont to try a different powder you dont have. Trail Boss is the powder of choice ( 5.5 gr). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffz Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I shoot a lot of 45 Colt. My go to load- a classic- is 8 to 8.5 gr of Unique behind a 250 gr cast lead bullet. My SAA gives a small ragged hole at 20 yards off the bench. For light loads look to Trailboss data. Bullseye was the original powder used in the 45 Colt, it should work well as well. I just prefer Unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffz Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 This is my choice of bullets : http://cowboybullets.com/ also try Blue Bullets they sell a 250 polymer coated bullet. I have purchased some but haven’t worked up a load. Starline brass and CCI or Winchester primers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techj Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 hour ago, jeffz said: This is my choice of bullets : http://cowboybullets.com/ also try Blue Bullets they sell a 250 polymer coated bullet. I have purchased some but haven’t worked up a load. Starline brass and CCI or Winchester primers. Thanks - I use a lot of the Blue's in other calibers...let me know how it goes when you try them for your SAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy85306 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 On 12/4/2018 at 3:44 PM, jeffz said: I shoot a lot of 45 Colt. My go to load- a classic- is 8 to 8.5 gr of Unique behind a 250 gr cast lead bullet. My SAA gives a small ragged hole at 20 yards off the bench. For light loads look to Trailboss data. Bullseye was the original powder used in the 45 Colt, it should work well as well. I just prefer Unique. ???? Bullseye was the original powder used? Doesn't sound right at all. .45 Colt was a Black Powder round, originally. Just saying, don't mean to cause a stir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffz Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Cowboy85306 you are correct. I miss stated. The first powder was black powder. I should has said first smokeless powder. I am working from memory and would have to look it up, but I beleive the US govt contract for ammo when they went smokeless changed to a heavier bullet and the original Bullseye formulation. It is a mute point though. You are correct original powder was black powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajblack Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I've used plenty of bullseye for 45 Colt, specifically using a 200 grain Missouri RNFP. I've moved on to powders with a better case fill,, but bullseye worked pretty well with a strong crimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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