clw42 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) I went to the range today and chronod a few rounds. These are with the RMR 124Gr Hardcore Match Hollow Point plated bullets noted earlier: Notes: 9.8 grains Shooters World Shots: 10 Average: 1362 ft/s SD: 24 ft/s Min: 1307 ft/s Max: 1391 ft/s Spread: 84 ft/s Power Factor Average: 168 Power Factor Low: 162 Power Factor High: 172 Barometric Pressure: 30.1 in Hg Temperature: 29F Weight: 124 gr. Notes: 10 grains Shooters World Shots: 9 Average: 1403 ft/s SD: 21 ft/s Min: 1357 ft/s Max: 1424 ft/s Spread: 67 ft/s Power Factor Average: 173 Power Factor Low: 168 Power Factor High: 176 Barometric Pressure: 30.1 in Hg Temperature: 29F Weight: 124 gr. An interesting note: The higher velocities in the first string were using Remington 1.5 SPP, the rest were Fiocchi SPP. Conversely, the two lower velocity shots in the second string were with Fiocchi SPP primers and the rest with the Remington 1.5 SPP. Also, the chrono didn't pick up my double tap on the last two rounds of the second string, that's why it only shows 9. Edited December 24, 2018 by clw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKJD Posted December 25, 2018 Author Share Posted December 25, 2018 Christmas came early thanks to 49th Cartridge Company! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 @clw42 curious to know what your OAL is and what pistol you're using. I've spent the last few days doing load development for 9major and one of my loads is very similar to what you posted. I'm using RMR 124JHPs, over 9.5gr of major pistol powder with CCI SPP. I'm running an OAL length of ~1.10 and shooting these from a Czechmate. This gets me to ~171PF. Seems you're needing more powder to get there, so I'm guessing you might have a pistol with some poppel holes in the barrel or maybe a longe OAL. BTW, the profile of the RMR doesn't allow for a very long OAL in my czechmate. I have 124 PDs (JHP) and Bayou (coated) 124s that allow me to load longer than the RMRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw42 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 Sorry, I totally forgot to include that information Gun is a Czechmate with a throated barrel. OAL is 1.163 I actually had the barrel throated to accommodate the RMR 124 JHP's at 1.165, which means there's plenty of room for pretty much anything else considering their profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 On 11/13/2018 at 3:38 PM, highhope said: I am using 10.5gr Lovex D037.1 124gr PD JHP 1.165" OAL. got 173 PF from a middy V8 (9 holes in barrel ) gun How are you liking this load Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intel6 Posted December 25, 2018 Share Posted December 25, 2018 I just loaded up 500 rds of 9mm using Clean Shot yesterday. Great powder, used lots of it when it was sold as AA #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 23 hours ago, clw42 said: Gun is a Czechmate with a throated barrel. OAL is 1.163 The longer OAL explains why you're using more powder than I am. Interested to see how you like this load. In addition to this powder, I'm also testing AA#7 and WAC. Once I get these loads dialed in, I'll be looking to compare feel and dot bounce for each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Hello; AA#7 and Major Pistol feel the same to me. WAC feels the same as Ultimate pistol to me. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw42 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, muncie21 said: The longer OAL explains why you're using more powder than I am. Interested to see how you like this load. In addition to this powder, I'm also testing AA#7 and WAC. Once I get these loads dialed in, I'll be looking to compare feel and dot bounce for each. It's okay. I've only tried this and WAC so far. This is a little messier around the press and it's definitely dirtier. I do notice a difference in the response of the comp though, but that should be a given with all this powder in there. I did a rapid fire of 10 rounds at an 8" steel plate from 26 yards and didn't have a miss. I didn't time it unfortunately. I also ran 30 more through the chronograph: 10 grains Shooters World 124 gr RMRJHP Shots: 30 Average: 1389 ft/s SD: 13 ft/s Min: 1364 ft/s Max: 1416 ft/s Spread: 52 ft/s Power Factor Average: 172 Power Factor Low: 169 Power Factor High: 175 Barometric Pressure: 30.4 in Hg Temperature: 32F Edited December 27, 2018 by clw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highhope Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 On 12/25/2018 at 10:58 AM, Furrly said: How are you liking this load I did not feel much difference between 8.5gr HS6 and this load... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKJD Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 I don't find it feels any different that HS-6. My motivation for using this powder is availability in 8 pound jugs and cost. HS-6 locally is $32.99 pound and I can only get it in one pound cans. The 8 pound jug I have was $23 a pound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ85Combat Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Did some testing today 58* Shooters World Major Pistol Czechmate Major Pistol 9.2gn 1.155 OAL 125gn Blue Bullet Average FPS: 1332 Power Factor: 166 Major Pistol 9.4gn 1.155 OAL 125gn Blue Bullet Average FPS: 1367 Power Factor: 170 Major Pistol 9.6gn 1.155 OAL 125gn Blue Bullet Average FPS: 1381 Power Factor: 172 Major Pistol 9.8gn 1.155 OAL 125gn Blue Bullet Average FPS: 1404 Power Factor: 175 Major Pistol 9.8gn 1.145 OAL 115gn Blue Bullet Average FPS: 1387 Power Factor: 160 Major Pistol 10gn 1.150 OAL 115gn Blue Bullet Average FPS: 1418 Power Factor: 163 Major Pistol 10.2gn 1.155 OAL 115gn Blue Bullet Average FPS: 1433 Power Factor: 165 Major Pistol 10.4gn 1.155 OAL 115gn Blue Bullet Average FPS: 1475 Power Factor: 170 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw42 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I noticed some unburnt powder in my gun when I cleaned it this week. I'm not sure which test string it's from, but it's from one of the two I posted. If I find it's from the recent string, the one I will most likely end up using for my load. How do I make sure I get it all to burn? I've never run into this before. Based on CZ85's data above, I may try changing my OAL to 1.155. Would that help with the unburnt powder? I'm assuming I'd then be packing the powder down a little with the bullet. At my current 1.165, the bullet seems to sit just on top of the powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ85Combat Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 48 minutes ago, clw42 said: I noticed some unburnt powder in my gun when I cleaned it this week. I'm not sure which test string it's from, but it's from one of the two I posted. If I find it's from the recent string, the one I will most likely end up using for my load. How do I make sure I get it all to burn? I've never run into this before. Based on CZ85's data above, I may try changing my OAL to 1.155. Would that help with the unburnt powder? I'm assuming I'd then be packing the powder down a little with the bullet. At my current 1.165, the bullet seems to sit just on top of the powder. If you shorten up your OAL it will raise pressure and increase your FPS/PF. I find that I get a cleaner burn with a shorter OAL and I do not have to use as much powder to get the same PF. I am going to an 1.145" - 1.150" OAL, but my test loads were very clean and as clean as the 3N38 & N350 I have used. In fact looking at my cases they could be reloaded with out tumbling. I think it is ease to use to much Major Pistol powder as it is very dense so large charges weights are easy and the volume of gas may over power the comp with lots of gas going out the front of the comp. Shorting the OAL and using a little less powder I think will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw42 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 3 hours ago, CZ85Combat said: If you shorten up your OAL it will raise pressure and increase your FPS/PF. I find that I get a cleaner burn with a shorter OAL and I do not have to use as much powder to get the same PF. I am going to an 1.145" - 1.150" OAL, but my test loads were very clean and as clean as the 3N38 & N350 I have used. In fact looking at my cases they could be reloaded with out tumbling. I think it is ease to use to much Major Pistol powder as it is very dense so large charges weights are easy and the volume of gas may over power the comp with lots of gas going out the front of the comp. Shorting the OAL and using a little less powder I think will help. Awesome, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw42 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Okay, I'm getting pretty decent results with this powder, but does anyone else have an issue with it making a mess of their press? I don't get any spillage when indexing, but when I'm done with a loading session there's a powdery mess all over the place. I can't tell where it's coming from, as it's not obvious while reloading, but clearly it's coming from somewhere. I may take a video to see if I can spot the 'problem'. It's not a huge deal, but it's a little annoying. I typically don't have to clean my press of powder all that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyman1876 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Mine spills a little once in a while when I index the press. Nothing to crazy tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw42 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, tyman1876 said: Mine spills a little once in a while when I index the press. Nothing to crazy tho Yeah, I get a mess. I'm going to see if I can take a video with my phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvc4you Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I changed to the Arredondo Powder bar, and no spills...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw42 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, dvc4you said: I changed to the Arredondo Powder bar, and no spills... So far I've only gotten it with this powder. I've used WAC, HP-38, CFE 223, CFE Pistol and several others, and I'd maybe have to clean the press off (just a dusting or a quick vacuum) every 1k or so rounds. With this stuff, it's after every couple of hundred. Admittedly, I'm a bit OCD when it comes to keeping my gear clean, so what passes as a 'mess' to me, might be nothing to a normal person. But after watching it a bit last night, it seems as though some powder leaks out of the drop when the charged case is lowered from drop die. I don't have any sticking or herky jerky stuff going on, it's almost like a shutting a faucet off and still getting a couple of drips. So maybe the Arredondo powder bar might help. Or maybe I ignore it and soldier on. Edited January 7, 2019 by clw42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ85Combat Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 It's coming from the powder bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer-x Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 If it's coming from the powder bar, this should fix for you. This is a very fine grain powder - powder bar can't be loose (vertical). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyskyhigh Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 If it's coming from the powder bar, this should fix for you. This is a very fine grain powder - powder bar can't be loose (vertical). That’s a dead link when I click on it. I started using the Hornady LnL powder measure for really fine powders when loading rifle, but I’d like to find a solution for the Dillon with pistol. As you know the really fine powder gets in between the powder bar and the powder measure. Gums it up and leaks. PIA!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer-x Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Strange, link works for me? https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/254878-aa7-how-dirty-is-it/?do=findComment&comment=2837829 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I loaded up some more rounds this weekend. I did 124 gr PD JHP with 10.0 gr Major Pistol. I can't tell a difference between this or any other load. I've shot several different loads multiple times now and can't feel a difference. Don't know if that's because of my comp or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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