IDAHOAASHOOTER Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I have the 3 die box set from LEE, I'm having random loaded bullets just push into the casing. Having random bullets loose in the casing. Brand new to open, need an undersized die like the Lee u die for 40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 minute ago, IDAHOAASHOOTER said: I have the 3 die box set from LEE, I'm having random loaded bullets just push into the casing. Having random bullets loose in the casing. Brand new to open, need an undersized die like the Lee u die for 40? You shouldn’t NEED a Udie. Is the sizer adjusted down to just kissing the shell plate? What bullets are you using? Measure a handful and see if any are undersized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radny97 Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Check your bullets. That or the die is faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dons Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) What brass are you using? I've got some much fired practice brass that won't hold bullets either. New Starline always works, YMMV. Edited October 25, 2018 by dons spell check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 You might be belling the case too much to seat the bullet, and perhaps NOT "crimping" enough. Do these loaded cartridges pass The Plunk Test in your gun ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDAHOAASHOOTER Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said: You might be belling the case too much to seat the bullet, and perhaps NOT "crimping" enough. Do these loaded cartridges pass The Plunk Test in your gun ? Yes they all drop right in, I ordered the Lee undersize die and the factory crimp. I realized I was still using the 9mm carbide crimp die. Somehow ended up in the box with the 38 super dies. My dumb ass didn't read it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glk21C Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I've found the 38 super powder funnel (Dillon) to be just a tad to large which leads to the brass having a ID that is just a little too large. Chuck up the powder funnel in a drill press and while it's spinning take a fine file to the outside of the funnel where it expands the brass in order to take a small amount of material off. Then some wet/dry sandpaper to polish it up while still spinning in the drill press. Taking a small amount off of the OD of the funnel will reduce the ID of the brass, thus eliminating the setback. I got this from someone else here on the forum after doing a search as I was having the same problem you are. Of course, I am under the assumption you are loading on a Dillon. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDAHOAASHOOTER Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Glk21C said: I've found the 38 super powder funnel (Dillon) to be just a tad to large which leads to the brass having a ID that is just a little too large. Chuck up the powder funnel in a drill press and while it's spinning take a fine file to the outside of the funnel where it expands the brass in order to take a small amount of material off. Then some wet/dry sandpaper to polish it up while still spinning in the drill press. Taking a small amount off of the OD of the funnel will reduce the ID of the brass, thus eliminating the setback. I got this from someone else here on the forum after doing a search as I was having the same problem you are. Of course, I am under the assumption you are loading on a Dillon. Good luck Thanks I'll give it a shot when I get back into the shop! Yes I'm loading on a 650. Seriously you guys are awesome, still new ish to this sport the amount of knowledge that is shared openly is really cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dons Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 This post has piqued my curiosity. Have you pulled and measured the bullets that pushed into the case? The Lee carbide crimp , per Lee's ad copy, resizes the case while crimping. I'm thinking that this may size the case a little while the cartridge is pulled out of the die. In doing this, the case going through the sizing portion after the bullet is seated may actually compress enough to size the bullet? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mlussoro Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I run a lee loadmaster press with same dies, don’t even run a factory crimp as the seating die is also a crimp die built in one. Nevwr had an issue with to much flare, but I’m not using a fancy Dillion either, just a pile o lee. ( by the way I loaded the first 50 rounds for his gun..... Maybe it’s the loose but behind the press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDAHOAASHOOTER Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share Posted November 5, 2018 I got if figured finally, with new brass it was perfect ran no issues. With the used brass I tried the u die and it ran fine. Fine tuned the powder/flare die, ran great for about 1k rounds so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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