steviesterno Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Not the usual competition topic but I know many here (myself included) prefer 1911/2011 to other platforms. And some of us even occasionally shoot for recreation not just practice. So with that, I’m wondering if anyone has experience suppressing a 1911. I currently have 2 full size Baers, one for single stack and one for carry/HD. I have heard that plopping in a threaded barrel can eventually mess up the stock stuff unless I have a new bushing. Even then it may wear the slide irregularly. Is that true? Having a barrel professionally fitted brings the price up to damn near what it costs to buy an M&P with already threaded barrel. Is the juice worth the squeeze? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 The answer is on you. Do you really want a suppressed 1911? If you say yes then do it. I might just try to find a 1911 that isn’t in Baer money range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, Nathanb said: The answer is on you. Do you really want a suppressed 1911? If you say yes then do it. I might just try to find a 1911 that isn’t in Baer money range Closest I've seen so far with a threaded barrel is a Ruger enhanced, and they are $600 right now. But then I think that if I'm going to get a suppressed 1911 I may as well get one with a rail, too, right? and the step up to that is a Dan Wesson for like $1400. I don't see any budget 1911s that have both barrel and rail, but the M&P does. or I can get over the rail I suppose, but where's the fun in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, steviesterno said: Is the juice worth the squeeze? Not to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Wouldn't be worth it to me unless I was in the process of building a new gun. In that case, I'd use a threaded barrel to start. Otherwise, I'd just go the M&P route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I believe i might XDM threaded model it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I went the xdm route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithcity Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) I have a suppressed kimber 1911 in 45acp. I love it. The real question is, why wouldn't you suppress it?! Didn't buy an after market barrel. My kimber came threaded.... Edited October 22, 2018 by Smithcity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_M Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I shot a match with my Freedom Gunworks 2011 suppressed. I shot Open minor but it was the most fun I've had shooting a match in a long time. The 1911/2011 is the quietest 9mm suppressor host I've shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Will_M said: I shot a match with my Freedom Gunworks 2011 suppressed. I shot Open minor but it was the most fun I've had shooting a match in a long time. The 1911/2011 is the quietest 9mm suppressor host I've shot. not sure that's the cheapest option what can did you have on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 25 minutes ago, Will_M said: I shot a match with my Freedom Gunworks 2011 suppressed. I shot Open minor but it was the most fun I've had shooting a match in a long time. The 1911/2011 is the quietest 9mm suppressor host I've shot. Do you know why it is quieter than a plastic fantastic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_M Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 35 minutes ago, steviesterno said: not sure that's the cheapest option what can did you have on it? SilencerCo Octane 9HD 10 minutes ago, RJH said: Do you know why it is quieter than a plastic fantastic? Hammer fired guns tend to be quieter than the striker fired. The consensus is that the hammer keeps the action closed for a few milliseconds longer, allowing more gas to move through the suppressor instead of out of the ejection port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, Will_M said: Hammer fired guns tend to be quieter than the striker fired. The consensus is that the hammer keeps the action closed for a few milliseconds longer, allowing more gas to move through the suppressor instead of out of the ejection port. Makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 interesting about that keeping the gas in idea. Ok science guys, which is better/quieter to suppress out of the same can 45 can, a 147gn 9mm or a 230gn 45, assuming they are both at about 1k fps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_M Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, steviesterno said: interesting about that keeping the gas in idea. Ok science guys, which is better/quieter to suppress out of the same can 45 can, a 147gn 9mm or a 230gn 45, assuming they are both at about 1k fps? Subsonic 9mm is always going to be quieter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Will_M said: Subsonic 9mm is always going to be quieter. why? I hear mixed things about how there's more room in the tube for gas to go around the bullet. Also 45 seems to be pretty low pressure, I assumed *(maybe wrongly) pressure had a lot to do with noise as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I’ve shot back to back with someone shooting their osprey and my gemtech and my gemtech was quieter by a good bit. He was shooting 45. I was shooting 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_M Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Some manufacturers will sell a 9mm endcap for the large bore cans if you're chasing a few extra decibels. But even with an overbored can, there's simply less gas to contain from a 9mm charge vs the powder charge in a .45ACP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, Will_M said: Some manufacturers will sell a 9mm endcap for the large bore cans if you're chasing a few extra decibels. But even with an overbored can, there's simply less gas to contain from a 9mm charge vs the powder charge in a .45ACP. upon reflection, my 45 reloads were like 4.0 gn clays and my 9mm minor stuff was 2.2gn or so. I do not know the volume difference or if it factors in significantly, but I guess it makes sense you would have less powder so less explosion/noise. I'm not trying to go crazy with quiet. I already do that with 22 subsonics through a bolt gun. that is silly. Just trying to branch into some new areas of shooting and enjoy it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assaulter Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I've got several 1911 and 2011 hosts. You can buy a drop in 1911 barrel. It will work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviesterno Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 4:38 PM, assaulter said: I've got several 1911 and 2011 hosts. You can buy a drop in 1911 barrel. It will work fine. Which barrel did you go with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 8:33 AM, Will_M said: I shot a match with my Freedom Gunworks 2011 suppressed. I shot Open minor but it was the most fun I've had shooting a match in a long time. The 1911/2011 is the quietest 9mm suppressor host I've shot. Very nice! Any photo of it with can in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfiddy Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I’ve suppressed a couple of different 2011s. I don’t see you shooting enough suppressed to harm the bushing in your Baer with a decent drop in Barrel (I use storm lake in my not so custom 2011). The other is a bull barreled SVI so that one had an additional barrel made for shooting suppressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assaulter Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 hours ago, steviesterno said: Which barrel did you go with? Storm Lake for a drop in. I've got a couple kkm fit barrels too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_M Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 14 hours ago, Bruce said: Very nice! Any photo of it with can in place? None at the moment, but if I remember I'll try to take a quick one when I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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