ArrDave Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 So I picked up the platform coming from CZ back in May. I'm getting past 5k rounds and I'm starting to realize I have no idea the change interval is. I'm going to throw out my guesses on round count when things should change and you tell me I'm not a big trigger guy so I don't really care what the trigger weight is - I've been running a stock set up for the first 5k rounds but recently changed to a 14# recoil spring - which I like the ejection better on - which suggested to me using a 4.5# striker spring. So keeping all that in mind this is what I'm thinking - what would you do? Striker Spring - 5k Recoil Spring - 10k Trigger Spring - 10k Striker assembly - 20k Extractor - 20k Trigger bar / housing - 40k Am I at all barking up the right tree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapribek Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Not trying to be funny or annoying, but I just run my Glocks until something breaks. Most of the guys I shoot with do the same thing. Worst case scenario is the gun goes down during a match, you lose the one stage and just borrow a buddy’s gun to finish up. I just switched to Carry Optics, and because there’s less of a chance there’d be another in my squad, I started carrying a second 34 MOS, not because the gun might breakdown, but because the dot might! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1911A1 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 The only thing I replace on a regular basis that isn't broken is the recoil spring about every 4 to 5 thousand rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp88 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Unless you are running federal primers, I would leave the striker spring stock. I tried lighter springs and even with the Jager striker, I had light strikes. As far as the other springs go, change the recoil every 10k. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArrDave Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, tdp88 said: Unless you are running federal primers, I would leave the striker spring stock. I tried lighter springs and even with the Jager striker, I had light strikes. As far as the other springs go, change the recoil every 10k. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Can I run the OEM striker spring weight with reduced power recoil springs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp88 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 The only problems I’ve seen are when they go 11lbs or lower. Most of the time even an 11lb spring is fine with the factory striker spring. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackCage Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 38 minutes ago, ArrDave said: Can I run the OEM striker spring weight with reduced power recoil springs? Yes, I run a 13lb recoil with stock striker springs. No issue at all in over 5k rounds (probably closer to 10k) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArrDave Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, TrackCage said: Yes, I run a 13lb recoil with stock striker springs. No issue at all in over 5k rounds (probably closer to 10k) fantastic - I didn't want to change the striker spring but read that I needed to to balance the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniperboy Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I challenge you to not clean your Glock and not change your springs until something goes wrong. The result may surprise you and frankly will "set your soul free". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArrDave Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 31 minutes ago, Sniperboy said: I challenge you to not clean your Glock and not change your springs until something goes wrong. The result may surprise you and frankly will "set your soul free". I have the "not cleaning" bit down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef15 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Lightweight striker springs need changing often IME. No sure on aftermarket recoil springs, only about 7-8k on my 11lb. Rate worked fine in two 17s with stock striker spring FWIW, one still is stock. The rest of the stuff is approaching 20k and seems to be working fine. Just watch for abnormal wear, I had to fix some early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBP55 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Changing all the springs every 10,000 rounds can not hurt anything and cost very little. Leave the other items listed alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robchavous Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 @wtturnSent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12glocks Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I totally disagree with the poster above and think installing a reduced power striker spring is imperative. I think a Wolff 4.5 pound spring will ignite almost everything and a 4 pound spring will ignite Federal and Winchester primers for a decade of competitive shooting. You can get too light of a striker spring with some brands but I use either the TTI kit now or Wolff. Make sure you test and changes prior to a match. I you are shooting lighter loads you can lighten the recoil spring to 13 pounds or so. I used the stock spring forever it just causes a little more nose dive. I broke one extractor on a G17 purchased used and wore a MIM Gen 3 extractor out (I think). I change recoil springs periodically and carry a spare striker spring with me. I have only ever replaced other shooters striker springs during a match. I think your barking up the wrong tree on the other items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrackCage Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 30 minutes ago, 12glocks said: I totally disagree with the poster above and think installing a reduced power striker spring is imperative. What makes this imperative? Lighter trigger pull? Reliability? Something else? I haven't found any issue running the stock striker spring with a lighter recoil spring. Plus, the stock weight striker spring should last longer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12glocks Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, TrackCage said: What makes this imperative? Lighter trigger pull? Reliability? Something else? I haven't found any issue running the stock striker spring with a lighter recoil spring. Plus, the stock weight striker spring should last longer It has the biggest effect on lightening the trigger pull weight. I think the connector is the other big factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp88 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 I totally disagree with the poster above and think installing a reduced power striker spring is imperative. I think a Wolff 4.5 pound spring will ignite almost everything and a 4 pound spring will ignite Federal and Winchester primers for a decade of competitive shooting. You can get too light of a striker spring with some brands but I use either the TTI kit now or Wolff. Make sure you test and changes prior to a match.I might have to try out the TTI kit. I load with Winchester primers but had problems with the 4lb and 4.5lb Wolff springs. Maybe I got weak springs or bad primers. How often are you changing your striker springs?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock021 Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Wait, what? There's a maintenance schedule on a Glock? All kidding aside, the only thing I've ever broken on a Glock is a trigger return spring. That includes a couple of Gen 2 pistols. Clean or dirty they just seem to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12glocks Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 8 hours ago, tdp88 said: I might have to try out the TTI kit. I load with Winchester primers but had problems with the 4lb and 4.5lb Wolff springs. Maybe I got weak springs or bad primers. How often are you changing your striker springs? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I have changed two striker springs in 15 years (to be fair I took an 8 year break when my kids were born). I have always 100% ignited Winchester primers with a Wolff 4# spring though I primarily load Federal. I have a number of friends doing this as well. Is your striker stock? I just got a Gen 5 34 and did my usual mods: Dawson sights, TTI grandmaster trigger package, Jager SS guide Rod with IMSI 13# spring, polish internals and thats it. I change the recoil spring when it gets sluggish going into battery, thats it. I have loaded coated bullets that were a little fat and did not quite fully seat in the chamber with a subsequent light hit on the primer also. Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkingMonkey Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 If it's a Gen 4 or earlier, I would suggest changing the slide lock spring periodically. I install a new one in my Gen 3 guns when I replace the RSA between 3k-5k rounds. It's not a part that breaks terribly often, but when it does, your slide will fly forward onto the ground and you may have trouble removing the broken bit still in the frame. I've mostly heard of this happening in G19s, but it's cheap insurance and they are easy to install. I replace all other springs around 10k rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz427 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I pretty much shoot them till they break. Broke a trigger spring at 7k on one. They say change the RSA at 5k, I’ve gone way longer then that. If you go to a light striker spring then it’s probably the one thing that needs to be changed on a schedule, or you’ll start getting light strikes even with federal primers. Johnny Glock suggests every 2-3k, although I’ve gone like 7-8k with, but only with federal primers. But if you’re using a stock Striker spring it will go along fine. Your schedule looks good though. I don’t have any glocks with close to 40k, so I have no idea if the trigger bar and housing need to be replaced at 40k. Probably not a bad idea, good thing about Glock parts is there cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polymer Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 2:50 PM, ArrDave said: Can I run the OEM striker spring weight with reduced power recoil springs? I have ran the oem striker spring with a 13 lb recoil spring with no issues. If I use a 4.5 lb striker spring, I will run a 11 lb recoil spring. With both setups, the recoil spring gets changed often, every 5-6k rounds or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I use a light stiker spring, lightened striker and 13# recoil spring. I just adjust the recoil spring to loads, with 13# being uspsa (go lighter for SC when using those loads). Then if the gun feels like it's pounding me harder than normal or the ejections start getting weird then I'll change it. For the other springs, I keep spares on hand. Even a complete striker assembled with a slightly heavier spring and a stock unit. If you're paranoid try setting up for the new season and go the whole season with what it has. Unless you're really pushing it it's doubtful that most of us actually shoot more than 5k a year. Even though we'd like to! You can see a heavy/stock striker spring and a light recoil spring pull the slide back when you pull the trigger. 13# recoil springs work even with stock though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetToof Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I'd say, have all of those things in your range bag and change out as problems arise. The striker and striker spring have no relationship to the RSA in a glock, so change those without worry of effecting the other. Now the striker, striker spring, trigger bar, connector, drop safety plunger, drop safety spring, frame and trigger, all have a symbiotic relationship that ideally results in a trigger that is light, crisp, safe, and totally reliable. If desired, you can look into those relationships more, or as I recommend, buy a Competition kits from Johnny Glock. 2.5 lbs trigger pull, totally functional with any primers I've used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 3:06 PM, Sniperboy said: I challenge you to not clean your Glock and not change your springs until something goes wrong. The result may surprise you and frankly will "set your soul free". How is this? 15K rounds on one of my G22's.... Still not ready for cleaning. You can't trust a clean Glock... And only 7 recoil spring assemblies in over 270K rounds on one of my G17's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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