Akkid17 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I am wanting to get a pistol built that will comply with classic division and single stack. My question is, are butler-style cuts on the slide considered stirrup cuts per the rules? Does anyone know where I can get official confirmation on this? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 I could only find pics of Butler cuts, where the frame is pretty long. There's a limit on frame length in IPSC rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eern Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Email the NROI to be positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkid17 Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 4 hours ago, eern said: Email the NROI to be positive. Do they preside over IPSC as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eern Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Yes and no, but if he doesn't know he would at least know who does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Do you have any representative picture of what you have in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkid17 Posted October 11, 2018 Author Share Posted October 11, 2018 Top one is the standard stirrup cut and the bottom pic with 2 guns have the butler cut. It’s just a more squared to the slide cut in front of the dust cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteDingo Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I would consider the bottom photo a ball radius stirrup cut. Here's a discussion on Butler cuts: As long as your dust cover doesn't extend more than 75mm from the rear of the slide stop pin, any style stirrup cut should be acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkid17 Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 The reason I ask is that I sent in a build for SVI and when I talked with the tech he said the butler cut was not IPSC legal, which I can’t find anything to support that other than it’s not a traditional stirrup cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Global Village is no longer an official IPSC forum but, from Classic legality discussions in recent years, the exact shape of the cuts has never been seen as an issue. Any cuts that go through the slide are a no-no. http://ipsc.invisionzone.com/forum/132-classic-division/ (I suspect only members can view the threads) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkid17 Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 Got some info on the difference of a butler cut vs a stirrup cut. The two pictures I posted earlier are both stirrup cuts just different styles one with a short radius and one with a long radius and a butler cut is having a longer fram that is almost the same length of the slide just has a slight cut back to make it not full length. I’m lther words a butler cut on a 5” gun would make the dust cover over the classic legal 75mm and therefore not be allowed in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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