jester650 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I am new to this forum forgive me for asking a stupid question and I have crawled all over this forum and love it, however I have now become confused, I have reloaded for years but quit for about ten years however I am now trying to get back in it. OK so here my question I do not Have a FCD and I have .40 cals cleaned and prime ready to load with 180 gr tmJ bullete using titegroup or hp-38 any way can i load these cartridge without the FCD or is it going tobe dangerous ? I have fit them in my gauge they fit well now, no tight ones. I found one piece of Glocked Brass , also shooting a G22 Glock, Thanks in advance and I hope this wasnt to dumb a question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I am new to this forum forgive me for asking a stupid question and I have crawled all over this forum and love it, however I have now become confused, I have reloaded for years but quit for about ten years however I am now trying to get back in it. OK so here my question I do not Have a FCD and I have .40 cals cleaned and prime ready to load with 180 gr tmJ bullete using titegroup or hp-38 any way can i load these cartridge without the FCD or is it going tobe dangerous ? I have fit them in my gauge they fit well now, no tight ones. I found one piece of Glocked Brass , also shooting a G22 Glock, Thanks in advance and I hope this wasnt to dumb a question hey bud, what seating/crimp die are you using? Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester650 Posted October 7, 2018 Author Share Posted October 7, 2018 I use Lee carbide seating die the three die set from years ago but carbide I have them in the progresswive 100 but going with The RCBS Rockchucker until i get comfortable again that progressive is finiky to me but i cant afford a dillion yet and want to reload for some competiton shooting and practice, I have same question for the 9mm that im not setup for die wise those will be far more important when i get them ready, thank you for the reply I appreciate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk4364 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I have been loading 40 major on my Dillon square deal b for about 2 years. My pet load is 4.9 grains hp38 and hap bullets. But I shoot a 2011 Kkm bull barrel .I have never used anything other than the sizer on my Dillon. Shooting out of a glock I cant help there. But I have never had an issue. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk4364 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Recently I did get a redding grx sizer because I'm going to start loading for a glock 35Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester650 Posted October 7, 2018 Author Share Posted October 7, 2018 I Thank you for the reply I think thats great info on the load thank you for sharing that I was in the air about TG or the HP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk4364 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I'm probably partial because all I have used was hp38. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester650 Posted October 7, 2018 Author Share Posted October 7, 2018 gorcha Im Alittle worried I dont want a catastrophic failure in my hand. so I may do the same great fireatms your using I love them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, jester650 said: I'm a little worried, I dont want a catastrophic failure The only way you might have a "catastrophic failure" is iff, 1. you're loading .40 Major ( PF 165+) and 2. you're able to press the bullet into the case after reloading (bullet setback). If you're reloading .40 Minor - don't worry about it …. If you're reloading .40 Major - load up a dozen, and push the bullet against your reloading table as hard as you can, and then measure the OAl - if it shortened appreciably, you might have a problem and need to size the cases better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk4364 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 +1 what hi power jack said. If the bullet moves when you press against the table no good!Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk4364 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Take your time and make sure you use a case gauge on every bullet, if not use the barrel of the pistol you are going to useSent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester650 Posted October 7, 2018 Author Share Posted October 7, 2018 thank you guys makes me feel alot better and I really appreciate your replies, I will do the tests and I am loading minor. again much appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester650 Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 OK guys great info , Im loaded BUT the cases are glocked wont fit in gauge theyre all alittle fat ar the very end , i did load with hp38 4.8G 180 tnj OA L 1.125 will an grx sizer fix this and thank you Hi-power I did check them as direcred pushed them against the bench the crimp is good they didnt move but that swelling has to go. Im thinking the grx sizer would that be the way to go ?? thank KK for the info . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candiru Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 OK guys great info , Im loaded BUT the cases are glocked wont fit in gauge theyre all alittle fat ar the very end , i did load with hp38 4.8G 180 tnj OA L 1.125 will an grx sizer fix this and thank you Hi-power I did check them as direcred pushed them against the bench the crimp is good they didnt move but that swelling has to go. Im thinking the grx sizer would that be the way to go ?? thank KK for the info .Yes, the GRX will get rid of that bulge. If you’re shooting a lot then a roll sizer is a lot more efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 3 hours ago, jester650 said: 1. the cases are glocked won't fit in gauge - 2. pushed them against the bench - the crimp is good - they didn't move 1. Just to confirm - you are sizing the brass, and the brass will NOT fit the gauge, before you seat the bullet ? 2. The "crimp" doesn't secure the bullet and prevent bullet setback. That's in the realm of the sizing die - to reduce the size of the brass so it will hold the bullet securely. That's important not to have bullet setback, especially with .40 Major - for .40 Minor, it's not terrible important (explosive). It's possible, if your reloads are bulged after seating the bullet ? that your crimp might be too much - and that can cause a bulge. You don't actually crimp a semi-auto cartridge - just remove the bell so you could seat the bullet into the case. The brass should be straight up and down after it's "crimped", just like it was before you flanged the mouth of the brass. Good luck with it. p.s. I don't personally recommend reloading at 3:00 a.m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester650 Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 ok, I work nights , so your 3:00 am is alot of times my 3:00 pm, I did slide some of the cases in the gauge before the sizing and bell and they did fit, after the bell and sizing, I loaded with powder and seated the bullet I set the die to factory shell I had, but I guess its possible that happened because the bulge is at the bottom in most shell just before the rim, pulled a bullet or two and the bullet is crimped abut right no real scarring of the bullet and it wont move pushing on the bench. after removing the bell and causing the crimp to hold the bullet doesnt seem to be overly crimped it is straight not tapered in I set it for a light removal of the bell but ill check that. I relize its not tecnically a crimp but for lack of saying " removal of the bell " each time ill just call it that. Thanks jack for the reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester650 Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 Thanks Candiru Im just getting back into it Im not even sure what a roll sizer really is or does, Ive read about it but still not physically familiar with it but down the road Im guessing I will be, But on that note I see more questions, I did just watch something on a automatic roll sizer although it was really cool it was also $2000, Im definately not shooting that much yet. when iused to reload I reloaded mainly benchrest rifle and revolver a few .45 acp nevcer had this case problem and FCD or gsx issue that i know of, didnt own a glock at the time either. So Im carching up here on some of these issues trying to reload for IDPA practice and work up loads. Apparently I need to check my crimp after bullet seating on my die accoding to Jack I may have over crimped after bullet seating, he says that may have caused the bulge but it wasnt set tight it was set to a factory round but I may have I guess. Thanks Candiru for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 I may have missed it, but what is your OAL and did you do a Plunk Test on it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester650 Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 NO sir i dont know what a plunk test is ? and the O.A.L was 1.125 " let me go down and look at these monsters and straightedge them so i can give more info and you tell me what a plunk test is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Drop a loaded round into your barrel, it should move freely in and out of the barrel.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester650 Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 nope didnt pass that. I tried that after Jack mentioned it even though I wasnt sure that was the plunk test was but now I do, now does the GSX sizer fix this or pull them all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Run them through GSX sizer, should fix your problem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 What type of gun are you loading this Rounds for.. Can't seem to see that info in the thread.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 1 hour ago, jester650 said: didnt pass that. does the GSX sizer fix this or pull them all . Might be the sizing, and it still might be the OAL (length) of the cartridges. If they're too long (for YOUR gun, with that particular bullet) they won't pass either. So, it could be sizing, but I'd try a shorter OAL (one that passes The Plunk Test), first. BTW, I separate out rounds that fail TPT, and most of them will load and fire just fine - depends on how badly they fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 G22, got it.. if the GSX doesn't work then it's your OAL, like several have mentioned above. Could be that bullet profile deos not work well with your G22 as well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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