No love for the S&W M&P in USPSA

[Salsantini]

I have been shooting my M&P .40 in production and enjoy shooting this pistol.  Live in PA and all I hear is why am I shooting this pistol.  Is this the same thru out the country?

[stick]

Before switching to PCC earlier this year, I shot my M&P pro in Production and limited minor.

[rowdyb]

It is in the decided minority around here.

[tha1000]

i am a big fan of the M&P 2.0... but I  have no desire to shoot one in uspsa.  

[selecw]

I don’t remember seeing one in any of the matches out here on the West Coast

 

[RJH]

With plastic guns there is a new hotness that comes with a GM card that comes out every year or so.  The M&Ps turn was 7 or 8 years ago.  But as long as you don't have one of the very early models that had accuracy issues (at least i think it was only the early models, someone correct me it i am wrong), and your gun works,  they are as good as any other plastic fantastic.  Or, at least, i would have a hard time believing that any other plastic gun was provably better.

[RJH]

Also are they asking cause it is an M&P or cause it is a 40?

[B_RAD]

Not gonna lie. I'm not a fan!    

 

 

[Beef15]

54 minutes ago, RJH said:

Also are they asking cause it is an M&P or cause it is a 40?

This.

 

M&Ps are at least as common as XDMs and Walthers in Production here.

 

.40 however is not. I occasionally shoot my M&P40 in Limited.

[MemphisMechanic]

Agree; unless you handload there’s no reason to be shooting .40 in USPSA.

 

And the M&P with their legendarily mediocre accuracy in 9mm fell out of favor in general around 5 years ago.

 

Most of us diehards switched to metal guns, or back to Glock... or to a newer / ergonomically superior / more accurate plastic gun, like the Walther Q5.

[Mcfoto]

34 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said:

Agree; unless you handload there’s no reason to be shooting .40 in USPSA.

 

I'm thinking what you mean is there's no reason to shoot Production in USPSA. I have shot .40 in Limited for Major scoring with bought ammo. Most 180 grain ammo from the known suppliers make major. The last time I was chrono'ed, my PF was near 180 with store-bought loads.

Edited September 17, 2018 by Mcfoto

[ATLDave]

As others have said, it's generally serviceable as a choice for Production (although not game-optimized in any way), but its peak popularity in that role is long-since past.  

[MemphisMechanic]

@Mcfoto correct. There’s every reason to shoot .40 in Limited.  Just not out of an M&P.  

[Nathanb]

That is one gun I just do not shoot for s#!t but I always see a couple per match

[zombywoof]

I had one a couple years ago, M&P Pro. I loved the gun and started shooting Carry Optics with it. Accuracy was very good. After a while it just seemed like it was very slow and holding me back.

 

Bought a Stock ll. I'm not looking back. AT ALL

[crmcdm]

Yeah.  I shoot an M&P core in CO,  3 lb Apex trigger, Apex barrel,  and I like it a lot. It is definately very accurate when I do my part (with noted investments). But P320s are a lot more common. The gun is NOT what is holding me back.

[Salsantini]

15 hours ago, RJH said:

rlso are they asking cause it is an M&P or cause it is a 40?

They are asking because it is a M&P.  .40 minor when loaded to minimum power factor shoots softer than 9mm. These is never any mention of the .40 round.  Only that S&W junk

Edited September 18, 2018 by Salsantini
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[HCH]

Everyone knows you need a shadow 2 to shoot Production. 

[robchavous]

40 is a weird choice for Production, but M&Ps are still around. As someone else pointed out they're at least as common generally as non Glock plastic guns. I started out with one, but have since gone DA/SA. The guy who took 2nd Production at the Tenn state match this last weekend did so with a regular duty sized M&P that he runs about as well as someone could.

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[Sarge]

30 minutes ago, robchavous said:

40 is a weird choice for Production, but M&Ps are still around. As someone else pointed out they're at least as common generally as non Glock plastic guns. I started out with one, but have since gone DA/SA. The guy who took 2nd Production at the Tenn state match this last weekend did so with a regular duty sized M&P that he runs about as well as someone could.

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.40 minor can be pretty sweet from what I’ve seen. Costs a little more is the only down side

[GrumpyOne]

7 minutes ago, Sarge said:

.40 minor can be pretty sweet from what I’ve seen. Costs a little more is the only down side

Having shot both in Production, I personally think 40 minor is softer shooting than 9mm minor...and the only reason I left to 9 minor is cost. 40 minor in a plastic fantastic is easy shooting. To get the same kind of recoil impulse (for me anyway) in 9mm minor, I had to move to a steel framed gun.

[obsessiveshooter]

I think an M&P 2.0 would be a sweet production gun with a new trigger, springs and handloads.  I would have gone that route if the production trigger ruling had come out a few months earlier.  There is no way I'd shoot a stock 40 with factory ammo in production though.   

[waktasz]

This post is misleading. 

 

It should be " I live in PA and own two Infinities, and all I hear is why am I shooting this M&P."...

 

[robchavous]

This post is misleading. 
 
It should be " I live in PA and own two Infinities, and all I hear is why am I shooting this M&P."...
 
[emoji4]

Haha

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[zzt]

40 minor does shoot softer than 9mm.  It shoots softer still in a steel gun.  There is no disadvantage to shooting 40 minor for Production, except for bullet cost.  I shot with a Production GM last Saturday.  He was shooting 40 minor out of a steel gun.  It certainly did not slow him down any.

 

BTW, I see lots of M&Ps and Glocks, mostly in Production.  Serious Production shooters seem to prefer the CZs.  In Limited, 2011s and CZ TSs are the most common.