mwray Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Okay you have a NS target over the lower potion of a shoot target. The head section of the NS is partially covering the lower a zone of the shoot target. Competitor fires a shot in the head of the NS. The bullet is split by the perf of the a zone in the NS. Does that perf apply the same as the outer perf of the entire NS target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robchavous Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 NoSent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock021 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) Negative Edited September 16, 2018 by Glock021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just so I understand this. The hit is dead smack in the middle of the ns head right? No where near the edge perf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwray Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 Just so I understand this. The hit is dead smack in the middle of the ns head right? No where near the edge perfYes that’s is correct . The perf on the a zone of the head of the NS split the bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwray Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 I guess I’m really asking does the perf across the entire NS target work the same as the perf on the outer edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Are you talking about the rectangular scoring zone in the head? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBOpen Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 The only relevant perforation on a no shoot is the outer perimeter. The scoring zones you see are vestiges of the zones punched on the opposite side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwray Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Are you trolling us right now? Feels like it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Sounds like he gets both the Alpha and charlie penalty on the noshoot. So it is a 16 point penalty if he is shooting minor and 18 point penalty if he was shooting major. See sometimes minor is better.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwray Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 Are you trolling us right now? Feels like it...Nope serious question. I seen multiple calls and issues that I wasn't sure if they were handled correctly Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, mwray said: Nope serious question. I seen multiple calls and issues that I wasn't sure if they were handled correctly Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadside72 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCH Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Do they have rulebooks at your club? Or access to the internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwray Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 Do they have rulebooks at your club? Or access to the internet?This was not my club and I will not go back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HCH Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Perhaps you could teach them the rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer002 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 So you wanted an A with your mike/noshoot call based on touching the inner A perf of the no shoot thinking it’s also scoring the target behind. That’s a no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, mwray said: This was not my club and I will not go back So did they make the correct scoring call? If not, what did they call? Can you list some examples of the other questionable calls you referenced? This isn't very clear so far.. I'm not trying to stir up anything, just want to use it as a training tool for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, gng4life said: So did they make the correct scoring call? If not, what did they call? Can you list some examples of the other questionable calls you referenced? This isn't very clear so far.. I'm not trying to stir up anything, just want to use it as a training tool for others. Most likely, He went to a match other than his usual locals and there were questionable calls. Probably not going to name the match which is fine. Usually when I see a post like this I take a look at the various match calendars and try to figure it out. That is, if I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Yeah, I got that part Sarge but I want to get the rest of the story from the OP. Even if we don't know which match it was, if someone from that club reads this and learns something from it to produce better matches (well, this goes for anyone really), then all is well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwray Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 No I will not release the name of the match on here. That’s not good for them or me. I ask these questions just to better my ability as staff. I will start another thread for the other questionable call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gng4life Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, mwray said: No I will not release the name of the match on here. That’s not good for them or me. I ask these questions just to better my ability as staff. I will start another thread for the other questionable call Would you answer the questions so it is clear on the call (the match is irrelevant)? This is a learning forum also and it would help out others and possibly the match club in question. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwray Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 He got alpha mike no shoot. The alpha being from the clean shot above the NS, but he wanted the alpha below because a perf cut the bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 This is what comes from the shooter hearing, "you get the points and the no-shoot because the bullet was touching the perf," at some point in the past. But because the shooter never bothered to actually read the rulebook, they are taking this as gospel without the clarification that it only applies to the outer perf of the no-shoot. It's one thing for a shooter to be misinformed, but if the squad, and especially the RO, is supporting that call, I'd attempt to politely show them the correct call. If they don't agree, then you could have a polite discussion with the RM/MD after the match to gauge his/her response, and use that to determine whether you want to go back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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