kmc Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I have had an issue for some time on one of my 650s where rounds stick as they are getting ejected after the crimping station. After crimping and as the machine indexes, the round starts to exit the shell plate into the bin but it gets stuck and prevents the machine from cycling. The round starts to lean and gets stuck between the shell plate and the wire which guides it to the bin. The solution is to stop cycling the handle and stand the round straight up and continue. For some reason, the frequency of this happening has recently gone from every now and then to many times per 100 rounds. Although I've tried some things that seem to improve it--occasionally press the wire down into position when creeps up, etc--I haven't seemed to find the real solution. Have others seen this issue and what solutions have you used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadShot Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Messed around with this for quite a while. I got one of these and haven't had a problem since: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dillon-650-Ejector-wire-FIX-NEW-Upgrade-fix-for-ejector-wire-13298-problems-/253584738710 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmc Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, BadShot said: Messed around with this for quite a while. I got one of these and haven't had a problem since: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dillon-650-Ejector-wire-FIX-NEW-Upgrade-fix-for-ejector-wire-13298-problems-/253584738710 I'll give it a try. I have several aftermarket additions to this press (including the shell plate bearing shown in one of the pictures), I'll try this one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKnoch Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I don't have first hand experience, but I've heard if you have shellplate bearing kit, you have to raise the ejector wire. You can probably bend it yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, DKnoch said: I don't have first hand experience, but I've heard if you have shellplate bearing kit, you have to raise the ejector wire. You can probably bend it yourself And only run one of the washers that come with the kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12glocks Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Try removing the ejector wire and then reseating it fully. Happened to me once and I thought something was seriously wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stick Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I have a bearing kit. My bearing fits perfectly inside the ejector wire. Make sure the ejector wire in not caught under the bearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebancolt Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I have this problem occasionally, but its usually related to the wire rising up too high. I seat it deeper and the problem usually goes away. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 @kmc if you have a bearing kit and have not bent the ejector wire to hit the brass as high as it used to, we’ve found the source of your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmc Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 11:50 AM, MemphisMechanic said: @kmc if you have a bearing kit and have not bent the ejector wire to hit the brass as high as it used to, we’ve found the source of your problem. I'm not sure I understand. I've noticed the problem seems to be worse when the ejector wire rides too high. When I press it back down into the hole, the problem goes away for some time. I did try bending a previous wire but it never really seemed to fix it. Perhaps I didn't bend it properly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I will try to remember to share a photo of how I bent mine. I tried to restore the wire to being square to the shellplate where the finished case hits it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 4 hours ago, kmc said: I'm not sure I understand. I've noticed the problem seems to be worse when the ejector wire rides too high. When I press it back down into the hole, the problem goes away for some time. I did try bending a previous wire but it never really seemed to fix it. Perhaps I didn't bend it properly... I agree. I bent mine down slightly in the middle. Keeps the wire low and I have not had an issue since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmc Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 I had already ordered the ebay upgrade so I'm not going to bend my wire at this time. I replaced my ejector wire with a plastic upgrade part. 1,000 rounds this weekend, not a single bind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just got mine, having the same problem. Hope it works, going on tonight. gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDRanch Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Guess I'll try one out. Been having same problem with my 650 running 9mm lately. Even tried a new ejector wire and problem does not go away. Any ideal what is the difference between his two versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadShot Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 One is used when you have one of the aftermarket bearing kits, the other is without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 19 hours ago, DDRanch said: Guess I'll try one out. Been having same problem with my 650 running 9mm lately. Even tried a new ejector wire and problem does not go away. Any ideal what is the difference between his two versions? With one of my tool heads it has worked fine. Strange thing is I was setting up another tool head for a different load & powder, still 9mm, and no matter what I did it still jams/tilts going into the first shell plate opening & into the Lee decapper/sizer die. Tried 2 different dies/brands & the same.. This is an aftermarket tool head with the screws holding it place. Changed the tool head out to a Dillon and it works fine. I think the dimensions on the one aftermarket tool head are off. Maybe check or try replacing the tool head itself. gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDRanch Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 Gerritm, pretty sure all of my tool heads are Dillons, but will try a different tool head this week end. Thanks for direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDRanch Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I tried out a different Dillon tool head and still have same problem. Put the plastic upgrade part from E-Bay and works like a charm on 9mm. Will see if it is needed for the next run of 223. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazhi Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 How tight should the shell plate be after installing the washer under? If I hand tight it all the way up, I have primer misalignment issue. If I loose it a bit, I have case crushing issue. Trying to figure out if there is an optimal tightness of the shell plate with the washer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokarev Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Sell the press and buy a Lock N Load! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillon Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Push down on the edge of the shellplate at station 4. If it feels springy, then the shellplate bolt is too loose. The shellplate should still index clockwise with light effort. It helps to grease the top of the shellplate where the bolt head contacts it. After properly adjusting the shellplate bolt, remember to snug the brass-tipped set screw to prevent the bolt from tightening as the shellplate rotates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDRanch Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Well I spoke to soon. The plastic upgrade part from E-Bay worked for about a 100 rounds or so that kept slipping on 9mm. Contacted the seller and asked if he can make it out of better plastic. Looks like I'm out $10.00 bucks as he did not offer to replace it. So buyer beware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmc Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 Mine finally gave up the ghost last night but it's probably got 12K rounds down, so I consider the $10 investment ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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