CZ-Cliff Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Thanks, but I am shooting USPSA Limited Major. I did try Atlanta Arms .40 S&W 180gr JFP. No problem with tumbling, but the range on the velocity was wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveac1 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Ive used quite a bit of Precision Delta 180s long. Great shooting round. Also, check out Black Dot Ammo. Reg and Long are very nice and priced great. I used all these before reloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-S Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 So did the 205 syntech clear up in your CZ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ-Cliff Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, The-S said: So did the 205 syntech clear up in your CZ? No. I no longer use 205 Syntech. Too many keyholing problems. I am told by some that the combination of the CZ barrel and the low velocity of the 205 Snytech round contribute to the keyholing. I have experienced no keyholing with any other ammo. I am having extraction and feeding problems with my CZ TSO .40. I am currently trying different factory and remanufactured factory brands of ammo. I am looking close at the PF of each. CZ-USA is advising me to only try different quality factory ammo. No reload or remanufactured. I am currently working with a gunsmith at CZ-USA. He's been terrific. I plan to follow his advice and report my findings to him. I will update this thread when and if I find one brand and have a few thousand rounds without any problems. I personally know three people that have CZ TSO's. All say they have no problems with any ammo (factory, remanufactured, or reloaded). I am concerned that my TSO doesn't like any of the nine ammo brands I've tried so far. Edited September 26, 2019 by CZ-Cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Win train&defend just makes pf out of a tso also. Wouldn't take it to a major match but for store bought it ain’t half bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ-Cliff Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I would use JJR FMJ-Major, Black Dot, and Sellier & Bellot in my CZ TSO .40 because they all ran well with a 16# recoil spring. The front sight went up and came down right on target every time. CZ-USA will not warranty proper function of the pistol when using remanufactured ammo. They also recommend using the 16# recoil spring. Below is the PF of each ammo I tested with a chronograph. New Ammo Federal Syntech 205gr 176 PF (tumbling problems ) SIG Sauer Elite Performance 180gr 175 PF (expensive) Sellier & Bellot 180gr 177 PF Everglades FMJ 180gr 187 PF Winchester White Box 180gr 188 PF Remanufactured JJR FMJ-Major 180 gr 172 PF Black Dot 180gr 173 PF Atlanta Select 180gr 175 PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitedgun Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 9/26/2019 at 9:52 AM, CZ-Cliff said: No. I no longer use 205 Syntech. Too many keyholing problems. I am told by some that the combination of the CZ barrel and the low velocity of the 205 Snytech round contribute to the keyholing. I have experienced no keyholing with any other ammo. I am having extraction and feeding problems with my CZ TSO .40. I am currently trying different factory and remanufactured factory brands of ammo. I am looking close at the PF of each. CZ-USA is advising me to only try different quality factory ammo. No reload or remanufactured. I am currently working with a gunsmith at CZ-USA. He's been terrific. I plan to follow his advice and report my findings to him. I will update this thread when and if I find one brand and have a few thousand rounds without any problems. I personally know three people that have CZ TSO's. All say they have no problems with any ammo (factory, remanufactured, or reloaded). I am concerned that my TSO doesn't like any of the nine ammo brands I've tried so far. Any follow up on the TZ CSO problem? Interested in seeing if is a gun problem or ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ-Cliff Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 It was the gun. After sending it to CZ-USA the third time, the gunsmith said he found a defect. In his opinion it was there from day one, just not easily diagnosed. He said normally they would replace the pistol a new one, but could not because the .40 was discontinued. He gave me three options: 1) try to fix my .40, 2) replace with a TSO 9mm (not an option for me because I was using it in USPSA Limited Division), or 3) refund. I chose refund. Prior to this I purchased a STI DVC Open to shoot USPSA Open Division. It's a great pistol, but today I would have made a different choice. Considering that STI discontinued the DVC Open with no replacement and the phenomenal service I received from CZ-USA I would go with the Czechmate. Also, CZ-USA is starting to manufacture in the US makes them a top choice for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsessiveshooter Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Woah, so CZ USA told you they have discontinued the TSO 40?? I know the regular TS was discontinued, but what's up with this?Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ-Cliff Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 11 hours ago, obsessiveshooter said: Woah, so CZ USA told you they have discontinued the TSO 40?? I know the regular TS was discontinued, but what's up with this? Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk If I am remembering correctly, he said "weak demand" was the reason. And many other companies serving that space. They are focusing on other products where the demand is high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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